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			Ok, its that time yet again.  It is time for a new phone! 
Some of you might remember me asking about a phone less then 2 years ago and displaying my interest in the Moto Kzr.  I liked the sleek looking phone, it was very light and looked very cool in the white/mirror finish. 
The bad was that it lags like a turbo off a Duramax and put on a Geo Metro's 3cyl.  I hate it I hate it I hate it so much. 
 
Now, I have a 150 dollar credit with Verizon towards my next phone, so I instantly looked at the Storm.  I like the look of it, I like the feel of it.  I got to play with one in the super busy and super small Verizon shop at the Freehold Mall.  Couldnt really get a great understanding of the phone, but I got to use it for basic opperation.  I liked the clicking screen feature, but I noticed that the phone tends to lag when you swap from vertical to landscape.  Its no where NEAR as fast as they show on TV.  No where near it, and not nearly as fluid as they show.   
 
Next would be a tie between the Dare and the new Samsung Omnia.  Several members already have a Dare, and I think its a cool phone, but doesnt have the right feel I was looking for.  Its small, as is its screen and the graphics are not nearly as clear and cool as the Storm.  Im not sure of any lag on it. 
The Omnia is another touch screen phone, and it simulates the iPhone better then anything else.  It has a nice feel, but its graphics are kinda meh.  It was brand new when I went in there, and I didnt pay much attention to it.   
 
 
Now, the wild card is that I would...ugh cant belive Im even thinking about this....is that I would switch over to AT&T and get an iPhone.   
It feels great, it flows fantastic, its graphics are outstanding, it has tons of goodies for it, and it really really looks outstanding.  I got to play with one right after the Storm, and the iPhone really did things better.  No lag, no slow down, quick and easy.  I liked the cool touch screen with the pinch in/out, and the snap scroll.  I like the apps store thing as well.  Yes, Storm has an apps store, but is not nearly as big and as vast as the Apple stuff. 
Problem I have is that its an Apple product.  That means if it breaks, you are SOL.  You cannot open it without destroying it, and you have to follow by Apple's rules.  I have never had to deal with a single Apple product and dont own anything from them because I dont like the restrictions having an Apple product comes with.   
...but that phone is soooo cool.  It feels solid, it is very thin, its very small, and its just an attractive looking object when compared to the thicker Storm, and blows the Dare and Omnia away in quality in fit, finish and feel.   
 
Question is, do I stay with Verizon and get the Storm or another phone like it, or do I jump ship and go back to AT&T and get an iPhone?  Or does anyone else have any suggestions for a Verizon phone?   
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			i love my blackberry. granted its a curve, but thats because i dont like touch screens. its all preference from here. i could never switch from verizon cause all my friends have it so i text and call unlimitedly unless the person doesn't have verizon.  
 
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			i actually just started a new plan with tmobile for the g1 and i am loving it so far... no complaints and right now (until jan 1st) all the apps in the appstore 'android market' are free   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			look into apple care if you're getting hte iphone. apple technical support is amazing, and sure the apple care is a few extra bucks, but so worth it when you have a problem. 
 
I'm in the same boat as you. I want the iphone so bad, but the reason I haven't gotten it yet is because i find it hard to pry myself away from verizon.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				i love my blackberry. granted its a curve, but thats because i dont like touch screens. its all preference from here. i could never switch from verizon cause all my friends have it so i text and call unlimitedly unless the person doesn't have verizon.  
 
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Blair has Sprint, and Ill never switch over to that...ever.  Same for Tmobile
 
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			i definitely suggest you see if there is a way to test it out when its not strapped to the display tables... might sound weird but for me it made a huge difference on which one i chose when i actually held it like i would naturally...the tie down's they use are bulky and make holding and using the phone awkward
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Exactly.  I would like to just hold the phone, play with one that doent have a tag on it.  I might go over to the Verizon store tomorrow at lunch and see what I can do.   
I have also wanted to check this one out.
  
That is the Omnia from Samsung.  It has Wifi that the Storm doesnt have, a better camera, and its a lot thinner and smaller.   
The thing is the graphics..ugh.  The screen is small too, and all the "widgets" clog it up and make it busy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Al, keep verizon and get something with their direct connect thing.   
Verizon really does have the best network for talk and text and their data and push to talk networks are growing fast.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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 I found your problem, Verizon puts their own firmware on the phone and it is much slower than Motorola OS phones. I was given a razr2 or 3 or whatever from work and I HATE THE POS.
 
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			The Omnia and Storm are both GSM and opperate on 3G networks.   
Omnia has Wifi where the Storm does not, the iPhone does have Wifi.  That is only helpful if you are NOT in a 3G area, but good chance that if im not in a 3G area, that I there is no Wifi hot spot anywhere.  Places like Pensultucky who have yet to grasp indoor plumbing and the fact that they cannot marry cousins probably dont have 3G and/or WiFi.   
iPhone has a lot of weaknesses, but since its younger brothers paved teh way over the past decade, people just accept it as the God of smart touch phones.   
 
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			I have never been with anybody but verizon and they have always given me a good deal i think. Of coarse it always seems like every company is scamming us no matter what.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			Verizon so far has treated me well.   
They called me about 5 months ago saying there was a mistake on my last few bills, and they were going to credit it me some 60 bucks.   
 
Cingular screwed me big time back in college.  I called them up telling them I was going to college in Mass, and that my plan's range needed to be extended to include pretty much all of the northeast (thats how far back this goes) 
So the rep said, no problem, no price change, and program is the same, 400 mins, free nights and weekends.   
Great, cool. 
First month in college, my father sends me an email saying to stop using the phone cause my bill was 1500 dollars. 
Yeah... 
So then we call up, fix it, and they said they would wipe the charges off.   
Next month?  Bill was 2200 bucks. 
Came home for Thanksgiving break, canned the plan. Since both my parents were already on Verizon, that was an easy choice.   
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			i've been with Verizon since my beeper days.  i can't shake them.  if we're in an area where someone else has trouble connecting or carrying a signal, i just hand them my phone.  nationwide long distance, ability to call Costa Rica (in-laws are there right now) and the live TV are things i probably couldn't live without.  i've also had an opportunity to use their GPS-based turn-by-turn directions and i wasn't ready for the phone to actually speak up prior to the turn, in time for me to actually make the turn.  it must have something to do with speed, too.  i've never used their internet.  there is nothing on the web that i just have to find out before i get home to my computer.  i have used their text service, but i am not dependent on that, either.  GPS-based 911 is cool, but i am sure that comes on just about any phone these days. 
 
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			Im gunna have to find out my exactly credit towards a new phone.  Im 95% sure its 150 bucks as thats how much the Krz was 2 years ago.   
If its 100 bucks...its gunna be real tough.   
If its 50 bucks, then Im not even gunna think about it.. after 5 years Im going back to AT&T and Ill get an iPhone.   
I got to play with the Storm a bit more today.  The one Verizon store I went to was the first store that didnt have a zip tie that held it to the security tag, and goes right across the screen like a belt so you cannot do jack with a touch screen...smart idea.   
Anyway, was there for an hour and really got to play with it.   
The lag with the acceleraometer is bad compared to iPhone, and its thicker, but I like the overall phone.  I love the screen, I love the click screen which is a HUUUUUGE advantage vs any other touch phone including the iPhone.   
iPhone just seems to be so much easier to use.  Cons about the iPhone is the lack of pix messaging, and the Apple-centric software.  Not to mention the hassle of switching over to AT&T from Verizon.   
My phone is on its last leg.  Its giving me the white screen of death, and I think that is slowly going to just die on me.  Now I was talking to friends and talked to a guy at Verizon, and they were talking about an update or a revised one that could come out as soon as 3-6 months.  Problem is...the phone I have now wont make it that long.   
 
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			I am also torn about keeping Verizon and shopping for a new phone soon or jumping to the iPhone. I have a 1st gen iPod touch (basically the iPhone with no phone, external speaker, or camera) and I love it. 
 
I had AT&T in the past and was pretty unhappy, but I know others who have it now and coverage seems to be much improved. Never had any problems with Verizon's coverage. 
 
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			anybody here actually ahve the iphone 3g? any responses to at&t's service, and the 3g service as well? how readily available is teh intraweb on the phone?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			The only complaint with my DARE is the small screen, other than that I love it.  It's overkill for what I use a phone for but it's nice to get the internet if/when I need it and the voice messages you can send rocks.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				anybody here actually ahve the iphone 3g? any responses to at&t's service, and the 3g service as well? how readily available is teh intraweb on the phone? 
			
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 Garrett has both an Edge and 3G iPhone, and he said the coverage around here is pretty complete. With the 3G iPhone you can use the 3G network, the Edge network, or WiFi to access the internet, so the chance of being out of range of all 3 is pretty slim.
 
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			i have an iphone...i think somehow they make it faster in the store. because mine is slow sometimes, you would touch a button and it would lag, i don't have that many apps or that many contacts and it still does it. another thing is it doesn't sent picture messages which can such sometimes, but other than that its great, keeps me from getting bored a lot of the times and the battery life is pretty great, unless u have the brightness on full playing games all day. it hasn't let me down except now the screen starts blacking out for some reason, ive had it since august.  
3G is awesome, i get on the internet at work where there is no wireless   
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						Last edited by madness410; 12-17-2008 at 06:18 PM.
					
					
				
			
		
		
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