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01-18-2009, 01:06 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: West Long Branch
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Its that time again
Looking for a DD. The Caprice is not exactly working out for me. Kinda big, not super gas friendly, and still needs a few things. So it looks like I will
A) Part it out and use what I can from it. Spindles can be used for brake kit for the 72, 350 roller motor is a great starting point for an engine for the 87, trans as well, the rear end is a nice swap to some of the civi Cappy owners looking for a quick boost in power.
That, or finish putting whatever parts I have for her in the car, and selling it.
Im looking at a few cars. One is the 04+ GP or the 98-03 GP's. I know of some problems, but anyone else have any info on which problems they might have? I know intake problems, but what should I look for? Also want to know info on the GTP models
My real focus keeps coming back to another third gen for a DD. Im looking for an 87-92 RS, Z28 or IROC with TPI or TBI auto car.
Ive tracked down a few cars (Martin/Christine sorry I didnt text you guys back) and a few in the price range.
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01-18-2009, 07:18 AM
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Mr Fantastic
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: West Milford NJ
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GTP doesnt have the intake problems that the N/A 3.8 has...it was an intake gasket problem on them, fixed by a revised gasket i believe. it would cause coolant to leak into the intake. other weak point is the transmission, but its hit or miss, kinda like a 10 bolt...might last forever, might die in 50k miles. i took mine up to 130K+ before it finally **** the bed.
GTP gets better gas mileage than the GT as long as you keep your foot out of it, due to hte final drive ratio and boost bypass valve...2.93 in hte GTP, 3.29 in the GT/SE.
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B18B1 FTW
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01-18-2009, 07:51 AM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Aug 2004
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I don't know much about the cars you have listed but why are you going with a larger car? Why not a subcompact for better gas mileage and DD duties?
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01-18-2009, 11:22 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Edison, NJ
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'92 RS Heritage - Pypes Violator catback, CAI, o/r y-pipe, shortie headers, QTP-e cutout, LT1 cam, subframe connectors, struttower brace, Hurst Dual-Gate, 3.73's, much more to come, (SOLD)
01 Z28
01 Cherokee Sport -4 1/2'' lift 32'' goodyear duratracs
roofrack and other useless off road stuff
WTB: '71 Dodge Demon 340  project car
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01-18-2009, 11:29 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Edison, NJ
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IMO stay away from this one: http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/984062883.html
i checked it out, looks as if its been in a serious accident, they did a good job of covering it up.
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~Pete~
'92 RS Heritage - Pypes Violator catback, CAI, o/r y-pipe, shortie headers, QTP-e cutout, LT1 cam, subframe connectors, struttower brace, Hurst Dual-Gate, 3.73's, much more to come, (SOLD)
01 Z28
01 Cherokee Sport -4 1/2'' lift 32'' goodyear duratracs
roofrack and other useless off road stuff
WTB: '71 Dodge Demon 340  project car
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01-18-2009, 12:15 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
Join Date: Mar 2006
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I have DD'd a GTP since 2000. Great car. As Matt said, the intake has a leaking issue, the front valve cover leaks on the exhaust manifold (recall covers this) transmissions are hit or miss. You can also have water leaking through the HVAC system if a gasket deteriorates at the cowl seal.
But I love the car. Absolutely love it.
The great unknown (in my opinion) is the supercharger oil. GM does not say if you ever need to change it, and it's not in the service manuals. If it has never been changed you may end up buying a car with toasted S/C bearings.
Al, if you have any other questions shoot me a PM and I'd be more than happy to tell you what I can.
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01-18-2009, 12:29 PM
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Mr Fantastic
Join Date: Aug 2004
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yeah, the S/C oil is something people probably never think about. usually youll be able to hear the bearings rattling if theyre bad, and im pretty sure they arent a tough fix anyway
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01-18-2009, 12:37 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GP99GT
yeah, the S/C oil is something people probably never think about. usually youll be able to hear the bearings rattling if theyre bad, and im pretty sure they arent a tough fix anyway
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They aren't, but S/C oil is not something "normies" think about when it comes to car care. But I concur, not a tough fix.
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01-18-2009, 02:46 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hamilton, NJ
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I loved my GTP, 300 miles or so to a tank, great in all weather. Martin JUST traded his in for. F150Harley Davidson like 2 weeks ago. But if u are interested in a 3rd gen, send him a PM cuz like I said yesterday his boss is selling one and I know its auto and that's about all I know lol
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01-18-2009, 03:12 PM
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Keyboard Tough Guy
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Trenton, NJ
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Yeah my gtp has been the most relyable car I've ever owned, I love mine although am more than willing to part with it for the right price
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01-18-2009, 05:06 PM
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Mines OK... Its a canaidan car, now has a drop in k&n, 3" DP w/u bend delete, 3.4 pulley and a tune... runs well... but It eats transmissions like crazy..
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2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.
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01-18-2009, 05:07 PM
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Keyboard Tough Guy
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Trenton, NJ
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I'm still on the stocker but under 90k miles on my 00', hasn't had any tranny issues thus far.
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01-18-2009, 05:08 PM
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BadMod
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: hamilton, nj
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thought you were buying a camaro
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01-18-2009, 05:53 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: West Long Branch
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Yeah...figure about a year/year and a half from now.
But i want a new third gen....damn it!
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01-18-2009, 10:17 PM
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Queen of Destruction / NJFBOA Supporting Sponsor / Moderator / 12 Second Club / 2006 Member of the Year / PITA
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Wow. Generally we ask you these questions. Didn't you say you were looking at hhrs?
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01-18-2009, 10:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: West Long Branch
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I wanted one, but this woudl really be a cheap deal to get me through for another year.
I think ill fix the heater core, and just drive it till next spring when I will start teh process to order a Camaro.
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01-20-2009, 08:44 PM
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13 Second Club / Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Franklin Lakes, NJ
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how about a SUV? you know i love my saturn and they can be had for cheap. my buddy says they are going for pennies at the auctions
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01-20-2009, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Wayne, NJ
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get a G8
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01-21-2009, 06:42 PM
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Meet Coordinator
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Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
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al have you looked at impala's?
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01-21-2009, 10:17 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: West Long Branch
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New ones? Eh, nah.
I think im gunna stick to the S.S. Caprice till next March to when I can buy myself a new Camaro SS.
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01-21-2009, 10:23 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: west orange nj
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al i still have my camaro for sale if you want to meet up and check it out for yourself
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01-22-2009, 10:28 PM
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13 Second Club
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Old Bridge
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Al, I know you want my 3rd gen. I know my commute to your area is more than yours. I almost pass by your B body daily (I look for it, heh). Being tomorrow is supposed to be nice Im taking my Z to work so I can replace the blower motor and get an oil change.
Ill try to stop in like I said. I love Her but hate Her and if the price is right... 1 of 3,038 made in 92, then the Med Metallic Quasar Blue and the factory Bose system.... You know you want to atleast make an offer  If ya want the blisters, you'll have to fight Kat cause he has em and the stocker hood is scrapped.
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01-23-2009, 12:02 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: West Long Branch
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Ahahah, well thank you Kirk.
There was actually a guy from Pro-Touch I belive that has a really nice 92. Only problem it was white.
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01-24-2009, 11:31 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Edison, NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Ahahah, well thank you Kirk.
There was actually a guy from Pro-Touch I belive that has a really nice 92. Only problem it was white.
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Dont like white?
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~Pete~
'92 RS Heritage - Pypes Violator catback, CAI, o/r y-pipe, shortie headers, QTP-e cutout, LT1 cam, subframe connectors, struttower brace, Hurst Dual-Gate, 3.73's, much more to come, (SOLD)
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01 Cherokee Sport -4 1/2'' lift 32'' goodyear duratracs
roofrack and other useless off road stuff
WTB: '71 Dodge Demon 340  project car
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01-24-2009, 11:45 AM
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11 Second Club
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Quote:
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Dont like white?
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After having my white F body... hate it.
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1999 Z28 Convertible. 6 speed swap, wide cowl hood, full hockey stripes, and a whining 10 bolt.
2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.
2006 GTO, 11.48 @ 118.3
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