So how long until airlines just say screw it?

[WildBillyT]

And give everybody individual searches for devices?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34592031...rts/?GT1=43001

[maroman88]

****! and i thought it was guna be about the industry being in the crapper by the title of the thread!

[bad64chevelle]

What I think is not something to post in a public forum...And to be honest, if I can't believe that the people who "subdued" him didn't work him over thoroughly.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by bad64chevelle

What I think is not something to post in a public forum...And to be honest, if I can't believe that the people who "subdued" him didn't work him over thoroughly.

What he said...on both accounts. It's a slippery slope when you profile people though(I know where you're going with your first comment). Our rights and freedoms are being exploited...if we change that they win....if they blow up more people they still win...

[ryanfx]

I'm not opposed to 100% searches of every crevice of everyone attempting to fly. myself included.

if you chose to fly you consent to these kinds of searches. it doesn't violate any of our rights.

[V]

doesnt bother me if they make it more strict/more searches. i got nothing to hide

[SteveR]

I'm putting my boarding pass in my anus.

[sweetbmxrider]

Multiple law enforcement officials identified the suspect in Friday's attempted attack as Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab

[Brendan713]

You can search me through and through how ever many times you would like im no terrorist and i have no fear of being searched. I am surprised though, if i was that hero that subdued him he would have a couple of injuries that authorities would say did not result from the fire cracker.......

[Frosty]

The problem with the in depth searching is the second someone feels their personal privacy(ie:inappropriate touching) or when people think they're being profiled they'll call up the ACLU quick fast and you'll see major lawsuits..

[JL8Jeff]

That flight did not originate within the US so it has a much bigger effect on whose rights you would be infringing upon depending on where the search is done. But it goes to show that there are costs to freedom. You have to give up some of your freedom to maintain safe freedom. More intensive searches will also increase the costs and delays involved with traveling whether it's flying, train or bus.

[Blacdout96]

As if taking shoes wasent a pain enough, whats next,gotta go through in your underwear? lol, As most of you have said, i have nothign to hide, you may search me all you want. When my wife got here last april I waited about 20 minutes for her to get off the plane, I didnt know what was going on, but she was one of the few they pulled aside, and searched, I was a little aggitated, but nothing I could do, she has nothing to hide, she from Taiwan for christs sake, they love America!

[sweetbmxrider]

Originally Posted by JL8Jeff

That flight did not originate within the US so it has a much bigger effect on whose rights you would be infringing upon depending on where the search is done. But it goes to show that there are costs to freedom. You have to give up some of your freedom to maintain safe freedom. More intensive searches will also increase the costs and delays involved with traveling whether it's flying, train or bus.

eh, you have to go through U.S. customs to come into the country, at least i did when i was leaving ireland and again when i landed. they have the power to search you through and through before letting you come in.

[Jersey Mike]

Originally Posted by SmokingSS

doesnt bother me if they make it more strict/more searches. i got nothing to hide

This.
However, would everyone being permitted their pocket knife or pepper spray be all that dangerous? I gave my ex-girlfriend both a few years ago, in case she ever was in a situation where she needed to protect herself.

Now, I understand and had no hard feelings when it was taken from her when she was going to fly down to Florida--safety first, right? But I think it's the same thing as with carrying firearms; that "the bad guys" are going to carry things they "aren't supposed to" while the rest of the population don't. One prepared bad guy vs some unarmed people? or, One prepared bad guy vs a group of prepared citizens? I think my chances are better in the latter scenario.

Individual searches would be a great idea; time consuming, but much safer, and at the end of the day, that's what we all want when we're on-board a plane.

[Blacdout96]

it's not just terrorists that would try to bring a weapon on. what about someone who's brought somethign like that just to make his name famous, or to kill for the hell of it ( before you say he would be caught, yes he would, but the there's a death that has already taken place on the plane) A fight that breaks out between two individuals that got nasty, or someone who just plain goes off the deep end. There's no need to take a weapon on the plane, if it takes a weapon to take down one person on a 100+ passenger flight, then you are in no way resourceful. If a guy can take an entire plane hostage with a knife, or pepper spray, or some small weapon, then the passengers are weak, sometimes you have to put your life on the line to save another, or a few, or a few thousand. I feel that maybe the flight attendants should be trained to handle a situation like this now, even though it's still rare, something that shouldnt be out of the question.

[NastyEllEssWon]

the point is if they allow her to take it on the plane, and she dropped it, or lost it, tried to use it only to have it taken away giving the perp another weapon at his disposal.





i dont think you should be able to carry anything on the plane. no briefcases, no purses...nothing. you wanna fly.....bring your person...ship your bags

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

ship your bags

I can forsee that day coming soon. No carry ons, full search, one checked bag.

[BurninrubberGT]

I wish they searched everyone

who cares if it's an inconvinience, I'd rather wait longer and be garunteed the flight is safe than having that chance that some has a weapon

[BigAls87Z28]

So let me make sure I understand this...

You guys all want huge security improvements in American air ports, but this guy didnt fly from one American air port to another...he came in from Amsterdam.
So....we step up our security for what reason? Anyone of you actually have flown in the last year or so?

You cannot seperate due to name or what they look like.
Who can pick out the terrorist?












Im not willing to have my rights "adjusted" so that some goverment worker can strip me down and make sure that Im not carrying explosives. We have advanced systems that can figure this out.

[NastyEllEssWon]

timothy mcveigh....duh

[LTb1ow]

Yea... dumb Al... thats easy.

[BigAls87Z28]

I guess you missed the other point. Silly ********.

[LTb1ow]

Yes, lets trust everyone and give them hugs while we are at it.

[JL8Jeff]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Im not willing to have my rights "adjusted" so that some goverment worker can strip me down and make sure that Im not carrying explosives. We have advanced systems that can figure this out.

You wouldn't actually be having any rights adjusted, but if an airline requires you to "agree" to certain conditions before they will allow you to use their service then you don't have much of a choice. It's not about your rights but about your privilege to use their service. It's kind of like the privilege to a driver's license and the ability to drive a car.

[BigAls87Z28]

The airlines arent the ones that are doing the security checks. The airport and the goverment are doing it.
They just cant make up rules that go against the constitution. That would be illegal.