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baddest434 · 03-25-2010, 04:29 PM

question..i believe i read something in the newspaper about bergen county having a "blue law". i remember years ago when i lived in monmouth co. there was a "blue law" which meant that you could not buy clothing on sundays. so we had to travel to ocean county if we wanted to shop for clothes! is that the way it is in bergen county?

FlyingDutchman · 03-25-2010, 04:52 PM

yeah most places are closed with the exception of grocery stores, convenience stores, gas stations, and restaurants. not sure of any others but malls and stuff are closed.

baddest434 · 03-25-2010, 05:08 PM

WOW NNJ FTL

i read that the governor wants to lift that ban to increase the states hunger for more revenue with the sales tax.

but he is running in to opposition because it "would put a strain on the local police and fire dept. and affect the suburban county's quality of life" you kiddin me?

Jersey Mike · 03-25-2010, 05:18 PM

Tis true. Sundays = go to wayne.

mtg6486 · 03-25-2010, 05:30 PM

sunday is the only day there is no traffic in paramus and its great. every other day the highways are clogged so a 5min drive turns into 30 min sittin in traffic. Plus if you really need something that bad you can go over to willow brook or palasades mall which will probably take the same amount of time w/o traffic.

V · 03-25-2010, 05:33 PM

us bergen countiers like our quiet sundays, if you dont like it, then dont enjoy our peace and quiet and instead go fist pumping with snooki at the shore

btw, i grew up in bergen co and got used to sundays with everthing closed, its not that bad. And that was before palisades mall even

baddest434 · 03-25-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokingSS

btw, i grew up in bergen co and got used to sundays with everthing closed, its not that bad.

with all the traffic up that way i'm sure you guys do enjoy your sundays!!!

my wife grew up in ocean grove and they had a law that you could not drive your vehicle in that town after 12 sat night until 12 sunday night. that was weird. i had to park in bradley beach and walk her home while we were dating.

NastyEllEssWon · 03-25-2010, 06:46 PM

if they want to keep their blue laws thats fine, but the nj government should avg how much all other counties pull in from sunday tax revenue and hold bergen county responsible for those taxes as well. if you want to live in a rich county with these type of laws then pass the burden along to the property owners of bergen county.

LTb1ow · 03-25-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokingSS

us bergen countiers like our quiet sundays, if you dont like it, then dont enjoy our peace and quiet and instead go fist pumping with snooki at the shore

btw, i grew up in bergen co and got used to sundays with everthing closed, its not that bad. And that was before palisades mall even

woah, lets keep the fist pumpage out of this!

The Fixer · 03-25-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

if they want to keep their blue laws thats fine, but the nj government should avg how much all other counties pull in from sunday tax revenue and hold bergen county responsible for those taxes as well. if you want to live in a rich county with these type of laws then pass the burden along to the property owners of bergen county.

That's all well and good, but they also cut a million dollars or so in state aid to the town of Paramus. So, how are they supposed to pay the extra PD and fire personnel that have to be on duty? Having the malls closed saves a ton of expense $$ on the town - that's the other reason why they want to keep them closed.

maroman88 · 03-26-2010, 12:34 AM

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That's all well and good, but they also cut a million dollars or so in state aid to the town of Paramus. So, how are they supposed to pay the extra PD and fire personnel that have to be on duty? Having the malls closed saves a ton of expense $$ on the town - that's the other reason why they want to keep them closed.

working paramus pd dispatch on sundays is awesome, its the only semi quiet day of the week, not dead, but quieter. and with wat steve sed about the money being cut... yea makes my job so much easier, they took our coffee away (sounds stupid but when your stuck at a desk overnight its more then nessesary!), wont hire anymore to replace people that have left (more OT for me, go figure lol) and most recently they turned off the lights in the police parking lot at night, however boro hall is alllllllll lit up and CLOSED at night!

NastyEllEssWon · 03-26-2010, 12:44 AM

cut down the number of paid firefighters on duty on sundays and enlist the help of vounteers like most other counties do. if bergen wants to keep their blue laws they should have no problem with upping property taxes and sales taxes within the county to keep em without affecting public service jobs.

maroman88 · 03-26-2010, 01:42 AM

the only paid fire dept's in bergen county are hackensack, englewood, teaneck and ridgewood... the other 68 towns (including paramus!) are volunteer.... and its not like less things catch on fire on sundays...

NastyEllEssWon · 03-26-2010, 05:02 AM

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the only paid fire dept's in bergen county are hackensack, englewood, teaneck and ridgewood... the other 68 towns (including paramus!) are volunteer.... and its not like less things catch on fire on sundays...

well if less things are open theres less chance of a fire occuring in those places. maybe they should cut your hours at dispatch if its that dead

maroman88 · 03-26-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

well if less things are open theres less chance of a fire occuring in those places. maybe they should cut your hours at dispatch if its that dead

if less things are open, the fire will burn longer and grow larger before being detected... and we already have less people working on sundays for that reason

V · 03-26-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

if you want to live in a rich county with these type of laws then pass the burden along to the property owners of bergen county.

not all people choose to live in "rich" bergen county. I grew up there, not much i could have changed. And my parents bought the house there over 35 years ago, when there was a horse farm in our backyard basically. My house was built before the turn of the century. A lot of my parents frinds have lived in the area for 50+ years, wayyy before there was a noticeable separation beyond the fact it was close to NYC. Also, the property is maybe .5-.75 acre and property taxes are over $16k. Bergen co already has one of, if not the highest, average rate of property taxes.

baddest434 · 03-26-2010, 03:22 PM

whoa and i complain about paying 5 grand a year in property tax

thats crazy!!

BonzoHansen · 03-26-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

cut down the number of paid firefighters on duty on sundays and enlist the help of vounteers like most other counties do. if bergen wants to keep their blue laws they should have no problem with upping property taxes and sales taxes within the county to keep em without affecting public service jobs.

FWIW fire companies are reporting that it is getting harder every year to attract & retain volunteers. You can't just go out and draft them.

I wish there were blue laws everywhere!

The Fixer · 03-26-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddest434

whoa and i complain about paying 5 grand a year in property tax

thats crazy!!

That's the bad thing about this area - we're already property-taxed to death, and since the governor has stripped millions of $$ in state aid to the schools, we'll be paying more property taxes to offset the cost.

FWIW, the taxes on my 3-bedroom/2-bathroom house on a 50x100 lot is nearly $8K/year. And I live in a "poor" town compared to Paul.

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I wish there were blue laws everywhere!

I agree!!! The only time it sucks is when I have a house project to do on a Sunday - if they don't have what I need at Sears Hardware, I gotta drive to Hudson County.

V · 03-26-2010, 04:37 PM

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The only time it sucks is when I have a house project to do on a Sunday - if they don't have what I need at Sears Hardware, I gotta drive to Hudson County.

I always go up to Lowes on 303 anyway, sunday or otherwise.

Knipps · 03-26-2010, 08:12 PM

Mahwah FTMFW. That is all.

maroman88 · 03-26-2010, 08:30 PM

steve, palmer bros/ace hardware is open on kinderkmack in river edge on sunday mornings

baddest434 · 03-26-2010, 09:08 PM

are liqour stores open on sunday's?

when we had a blue law in monmouth co. you could only buy beer, no hard alcohol on sundays. so you had to make sure to go sat. night

Savage_Messiah · 03-26-2010, 11:12 PM

Enough stuff is open on Sunday that it's easy to find anything you need, I don't even notice blue laws, the only pain about needing to buy something on Sunday is everyone closing earlier than the rest of the week

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Originally Posted by baddest434

are liqour stores open on sunday's?

They most definitely are

BigAls87Z28 · 03-27-2010, 01:12 AM

I thought Blue Laws were applied to things like alcohol?
Monmouth County sure lost its blue laws.
Sundays usually have the shortest hours anyway. Most stores are closed by 5.