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03-16-2016, 05:47 AM
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Shots fired, your move Euros....
...and to the "I can just buy a Corvette blah blah blah blah" crew....stay the F out, I don't feel like having another thread locked because of your baseless, ****tard know-nothing opinions/arguing. 
http://www.camaronews.com/camaronews...-vs-everybody/
The 6thgen is still growing on me but my God....that car is poised to be sick...absolutely sick. If I had the $$ I'd say please take it now. I really want to test drive this 10-speed auto. The 8-speed is fantastic in the Corvette and 6thgen.
That is all, we now bring you to your regularly schedule programming.
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03-16-2016, 06:39 AM
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Nice car. The front grill waves throw me off a bit.
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03-16-2016, 06:41 AM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Very curious as to how it is with a 10 speed. It still blows my mind when i see that im in 8th gear in my audi.
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03-16-2016, 07:28 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Land barge with a big rig ten speed?
#seemslegit
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03-16-2016, 07:52 AM
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I like it a lot although I probably would prefer a more duckbill spoiler versus the mini high rise deal. This will be a performer for sure.
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03-16-2016, 07:54 AM
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Admin.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Land barge with a big rig ten speed?
#seemslegit
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they are smaller than 5th gens
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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03-16-2016, 08:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
they are smaller than 5th gens
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...and A LOT lighter
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03-16-2016, 09:14 AM
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Any reason why this wouldn't get the Vette's 7 speed manual? Seems odd.
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03-16-2016, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by qwikz28
Any reason why this wouldn't get the Vette's 7 speed manual? Seems odd.
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Doesn't fit the chassis.
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03-16-2016, 09:28 AM
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13 Second Club / Moderator
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Originally Posted by Frosty
Doesn't fit the chassis.
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Makes sense.
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03-16-2016, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by qwikz28
Makes sense.
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Yup...and to be honest that 7th gear in the Vette is a bit overkill IMO. It's still a nice trans, shifts like butter but that 7th gear isn't really needed.
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2010 Infiniti G37x-Moonlight White w/Graphite interior. Stock...for now. Xpel XR Black tint(hey it's a mod lol)
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03-16-2016, 09:45 AM
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I love it. If I had the money, I'd be all over it. I don't and never will(married with a baby) so oh well.
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03-16-2016, 10:01 AM
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10 speed is going to be a really expensive item to fix when it breaks (and it will). I had seen an article a few years ago where a bunch of car engineers were going through the facts that a 7 to 8 speed is optimal in a gas engine car or truck. The less power you have, the more you need more transmission speeds.
I wonder if Chevy fixed the problem with the 5th gen ZL1's power - they never performed in the 1/4 mile as the 580hp should have done. I know the 6th gen is going to be 200lbs lighter and have 60 more hp, but if it doesn't push 125mph it is going to be an issue.
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03-16-2016, 10:23 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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The problem with the 5thgen ZL1 is that it's so f'in heavy. I'm still considering picking up a 14-15 ZL1 by years end if things fall into place but after driving a few 6thgens you can really, really feel the difference in the chassis and weight.
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2010 Infiniti G37x-Moonlight White w/Graphite interior. Stock...for now. Xpel XR Black tint(hey it's a mod lol)
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03-16-2016, 10:51 AM
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Meet Coordinator
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What did you mean by your move euros?
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03-16-2016, 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
What did you mean by your move euros?
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Easy, this is a world class car...or at least on paper it looks it will be. To hell with Ford, this car is going European car hunting. 
I can't wait until we get one in at the dealership.
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03-16-2016, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty
Easy, this is a world class car...or at least on paper it looks it will be. To hell with Ford, this car is going European car hunting.
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Right, but what specific offerings from the euro companies?
How do you think a hellcat compares to this zl1?
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03-16-2016, 11:42 AM
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I don't see much cross shopping from the Euro offerings and this car. Sure a few might be swayed to buy this over a M4 but likely not.
I think this car will beat a Challenger Hellcat stock for stock. It may be a close race in a straight line from a roll but that's about it. More tire, less weight and possibly the benefit of the 10 speed should make up for the power deficit.
Hopefully they did a better job managing the heat with this car than the C7Z and CTS-V.
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03-16-2016, 12:12 PM
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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03-16-2016, 12:30 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty
Easy, this is a world class car...or at least on paper it looks it will be. To hell with Ford, this car is going European car hunting.
I can't wait until we get one in at the dealership. |
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
Right, but what specific offerings from the euro companies?
How do you think a hellcat compares to this zl1?
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I don't see much cross shopping from the Euro offerings and this car. Sure a few might be swayed to buy this over a M4 but likely not.
I think this car will beat a Challenger Hellcat stock for stock. It may be a close race in a straight line from a roll but that's about it. More tire, less weight and possibly the benefit of the 10 speed should make up for the power deficit.
Hopefully they did a better job managing the heat with this car than the C7Z and CTS-V.
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I understand the whole Euro fighter thing but i dont really see it as much as say we used to. M3 used to be the benchmark for everything and i feel like that is beyond us.
I havent sat in a 6th gen yet, but ive driven countless RS5(our closest comparison for the ZL1), and i dont see the ZL1 taking away any RS5 buyers.
two different markets in my opinion.
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03-16-2016, 12:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LS1ow
I understand the whole Euro fighter thing but i dont really see it as much as say we used to. M3 used to be the benchmark for everything and i feel like that is beyond us.
I havent sat in a 6th gen yet, but ive driven countless RS5(our closest comparison for the ZL1), and i dont see the ZL1 taking away any RS5 buyers.
two different markets in my opinion.
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That was my thought. Euro is thought to have luxury and refinement where America is more raw and get er done in so many words 
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03-16-2016, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
That was my thought. Euro is thought to have luxury and refinement where America is more raw and get er done in so many words |
True to a point but the 6thgen is a lot more refined, it might sway some people.
However I wasn't really speaking about consumers cross shopping, more along the lines of bang for the buck and overall performance.
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03-16-2016, 02:24 PM
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Wow, I rarely read magazines, if ever....that's one hell of a glowing review. Glad the "experts" said the same thing, I'm just basing my opinions off of driving experiences...good stuff.
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03-16-2016, 03:01 PM
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The only thing in euro mind is how to over engineer the shyte out of their car. ZL1 better be good because the 5.bro ain't playing around this time.
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03-16-2016, 03:04 PM
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I would just buy a Vette
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