Detroit: What a Trip!!

[BigAls87Z28]

1450 Miles
250 Camaro Enthusiasts from 28 States
7 beers with enthuisats and GM personel
4 states
1 speeding ticket
1 Camaro

My friends, I have seen the future, and it is awesome. The Camaro Concept is an amzing in person. I have only seen ONE picture that captures the car right, and itsnot on line. The car does have retro flare, as can be seen in the grill and greenhouse, but to be honest, its the lightest dose of retro I have seen out of the 3 pony cars. The rear of the car is very agressive, and reminds me of the angles that a CTS has. The tail lights, IMO, should be circular like the early 2nd gens, and to better line up with the Corvette and Cobalt coupes. The stance, wheel base, overhangs, hight, length, everything was spot on to what I expected out of Camaro. I have the specs of the concept here...

Wheel base is 110.5in
length is 186.2in
width 79.6in
hight 53in
track f/r 63.8/63.3
Wheel wheel indi suspension, MCP Strut/Multilink rear, progressive springs, gas pressured dampers
4 wheel disk, 14in rotors with 4 piston calipers
21/22in wheels with 275/30-21 and 305/30-22 tires.

The Hertiage Center was also awesome. They had the last 2 production Camaro and Firebird vets there, both in red, still with the plastic wrap around the seats. They had vintage Olds, Buick, Caddy, Pontiac, Chevy, and the very first Saturn SL to roll off the Spring Hill plant. They had race cars like the C5-R, CTS-VR, and the Caddy LMP2 car. They had famous engines line up, including a double rotary engine from WWII warplanes. They also had the famous ZL1 427 all aluminum engine, incased in glass. They had the Firebird I, II, and III. cars, the Buick Y Job and the Buick LeSaber concepts designed by Harley Earl himself. They had every memorable car for the past 100 years of GM, and they all had the keys in the ignition!! Some other notable cars were the 1969 Trans Am, 1967 and 69 Pace Cars, 1982 Pace Car, 1984 Firebird TA 15th Anni model, and a 1999 TA 30th Anni next to eachother. 1964 GTO, and the list goes on and on and on and on. Its very rare to have that many non-GM members inside the center, and its something that I will always remember.
This car is deffinatly a hit. Everyone was aroudn this car. Challenger and Mustang GT500...could have heard a pin drop.
Id like to thank everyone over at GM/Chevy that made it possible, including Scott S. I enjoyed talking to GM engineers and marketing people.

And also, the other cars that showed there face at Detroit from GM were also amazing. Two Mode Hyrbid Tahoe, which would trump Toyotas single mode, is being released within 12 months. They expect 25-30% increase over the Tahoes already class leading fuel economy.
But by far the most amazing thing i saw, outside of the Camaro, didnt have a bow tie on it (but they did have a Z06 to sit in..mmm yeah), it didnt have an Arrowhead, A Crest, or a Planet for a symbol, but 3 Silver Shields...its the all new Buick Enclave.
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[turbo96z28]

now i really wish i could have been there!

and whats this i was hearing about someone in a solstice doing donuts in the hotel parking lot at 2am with "Merlotman" in the passenger seat about to puke?

[BigAls87Z28]

ahahah yeah. Watched that from my room, safe 5 stores up.
Guy was sloooooshed, and so was Josh. I did not mean to make that ryme. Josh was trying to get him really drunk. For what...i dunnoooooo, but I heard things.

[Tru2Chevy]

Sounds like a really great time. Can't wait till the Camaro is on the East Coast so I can see it for myself.

- Justin

[Savage_Messiah]

Nice

That buick... Lexus fighter?

[Brando56894]

22inch rims? we b rollin on dubs!

[ar0ck]

I didn't even go and I got more free stuff then Al!

[BigAls87Z28]

Did you get the Camaro press kit, poster, and or the coffee mug?
Did you get the Camaro periscope?
DID YOU GET TO RUB THE SEXY FENDERS?!?! DID YOU!?!?!?
Thats what I thought.

[V]

what state did you get the speeding ticket in? if it was Michigan, points do not transfer at all, they are one of those states that dont conform with the 45 or so others. i'll be driving to Detroit Sunday.

[BigAls87Z28]

Ohio.

[BigAls87Z28]

best picutre, IMO, of the Camaro Concept.

[turbo96z28]

how close were you to Charlie and the other guys from CZ28? seems like they had front row.

[BigAls87Z28]

I was on the otherside of the box.

Ill have to do an MS paint deal and show you were I was.

[Untamed]

Thanks for the writeup man. I truly hope the pictures dont do any justice to the Camaro.

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by SmokingSS

what state did you get the speeding ticket in? if it was Michigan, points do not transfer at all, they are one of those states that dont conform with the 45 or so others. i'll be driving to Detroit Sunday.

not a compact state, huh? well, they'd only transfer 2 points anyway for the moving violation, but that's two less points that you didn't need in the first place. but... i think ohio is part of the compact so you might be seeing those two points afterall. do you have a mandatory court appearance, or can you just send it in with payment?

somehow i knew the pictures wouldn't do the concept justice. i love it and cannot wait to see it in person. if they have it at both NY and philly, i may even see it twice...

[V]

i cant wait to see it in person on monday, i also love how they gave the engine soom room unlike the 4th gens, working on a motor 1/2 way under the dask isnt too much fun.

[WayFast84]

nice glad yah had fun I SOOO wish I could have been their!

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by WayFast84

nice glad yah had fun I SOOO wish I could have been their!

THERE!!!!!!!!

It's not too late to correct your ways

[turbo96z28]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

THERE!!!!!!!!

It's not too late to correct your ways

he's young. he still has time to change. guide him wise one.

[enRo]

So, did they say anything about "Z28" or "SS" ?? Or is it just gonna be like the GTO with 1 base model?

[lrdvadr]

[QUOTE=BigAls87Z28]1450 Miles
250 Camaro Enthusiasts from 28 States
7 beers with enthuisats and GM personel
4 states
1 speeding ticket
1 Camaro

I thought the breakfasts at the hotel were awfully good, too.

[turbo96z28]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyKane

So, did they say anything about "Z28" or "SS" ?? Or is it just gonna be like the GTO with 1 base model?

that's one of those questions that can go wrong really quick

[enRo]

Bahh, who cares, Ill pull a ricey move and slap on an SS badge reguardless

[The Fixer]

Al, thanks for the update!

And, the pic you posted is my new desktop. Thanks again!

[Teds89IROC]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

THERE!!!!!!!!

It's not too late to correct your ways

ahaha, Alex misuses "their" all the time!

having to do with the thread, very awsome!, I can't wait to see them on the road!

~Ted