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04-05-2006, 12:58 PM
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Mr Fantastic
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anyone do their own porting?
i bought a stock L36 throttle body from another 99 GPGT, and i wanna do some home brew porting to it. anyone done this before?
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04-05-2006, 07:42 PM
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porting anything is a tricky matter with out real hands on experence in the end you might wreck what you tryed to make better, they sell spacers with a vortex twist insert, cheep and if something goes on you dont like about it take it out, remember bigger is not always better if you screw with the ( VE ) volumetric efic ( intake verses exhaust track tuning ) it will never work right again having said that, gasket matching, smoothing of ports, ( intake ) make the port a smooth to the feel finish with polishing only the exhaust port to a mirror finish is a play, Only one motor can the intake can be polished --- ( only ) if its port injection and the injector nozzel is at the valve bowl it is called ( DOWN NOZZEL ) their is always a play and a big one but only alky sprint cars use this with high end hilborn injection type set ups --- keep what you do to a min this way you can than see a small change for the worse and stop jz
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04-05-2006, 07:48 PM
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dude honestly i dont think youll notice a difference porting that throttle body honestly
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04-05-2006, 08:15 PM
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ehh go for it im gonna be porting mine for my ls1 myself with a dremel, if u got a spare go for it...
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04-05-2006, 08:17 PM
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im bought some ls6 heads and im smoothing out the intake and just cleaning up the exaust side
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04-05-2006, 09:19 PM
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Mr Fantastic
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it was cheap, if i screw it up then oh well.
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04-06-2006, 01:29 PM
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I say just attack it little by little. See if you can get a few good pics of other ported TBs so you have something to compare too.
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04-06-2006, 02:21 PM
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Mr Fantastic
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yeah once i have it in my hands, im going to check out the pics on ZZP's site, and also ask for pics on ClubGP. then ill try to imitate it as best i can
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04-12-2006, 10:09 PM
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04-13-2006, 02:48 PM
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Mr Fantastic
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 and now its clean....getting a dremel tonight, hopefully ill have most of the porting done
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04-17-2006, 02:59 PM
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Mr Fantastic
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Done. inlet is ******, a dremel isnt the job for doing this sort of thing, but its better than stock. the outlet came out really nice after a wire wheel brushing
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04-17-2006, 03:17 PM
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That looks pretty good for a first time home job. What was stopping you from getting more out of the lower portion of the inlet side?
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04-17-2006, 03:18 PM
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yea now let's see if you notice ANYTHING from doing this...
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04-17-2006, 03:24 PM
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Justin, i was running out of material to grind away, plus it was just extremely annoying to do. i actually went through on one spot on the left side, i had to put some epoxy over it to seal it back up...the way the maf sensor is seated, all around it the TB wall is kinda thin. i still took a decent amount off, at least 1/4 of an inch. plus its nice and clean, im sure the one im going to take off the car will be disgusting after 141k
oh and kasey, i bet i will...too bad i need tuning for it cause of the stupid MAF sensor, which means i cant put it on yet, which also means ill get a full tune at the same time, so i wont be able to tell if it made a diff
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04-17-2006, 03:31 PM
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what was wrong with the dremel when porting im curious before i go and try wth mine, post some pics of the finished product
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04-17-2006, 03:38 PM
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Mr Fantastic
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nothing wrong with it really, just really hard to cut into that stuff. its aluminum so its fairly soft, but not soft enough for it to really rip through it. a die grinder would work much better, then use the dremel for sanding/polishing
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04-17-2006, 04:44 PM
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OK, I didn't realize the FWD and RWD motors were so different. Really nobody has noticed gains then they do this or even out-flowed the stock TB in their application, nobody N/A at least,but I guess the f-bodies and w-bodies are that different
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04-17-2006, 07:25 PM
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looks good, I wanna pick up another plenum and runners, wanna give that a shot too? haha kidding
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04-17-2006, 07:33 PM
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OK, I didn't realize the FWD and RWD motors were so different.
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IIRC, heads, upper and lower intake, and TB are all different from FWD to RWD.
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04-17-2006, 10:29 PM
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Quote:
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IIRC, heads, upper and lower intake, and TB are all different from FWD to RWD.
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i think the heads are the same...LIM and UIM are different though, as well as the TB. the air intake is on the opposite end of the motor on a FWD (the "rear", opposite side of the belts)
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04-17-2006, 11:22 PM
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If the intake manis are different I guess that could account for it then. In that case, Well done!
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04-18-2006, 08:14 AM
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i think the heads are the same...LIM and UIM are different though, as well as the TB. the air intake is on the opposite end of the motor on a FWD (the "rear", opposite side of the belts)
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Yea, I think you are right. I'm thinking about the 60* v6s where the FWD cars all got better flowing aluminum heads and the rear drive cars had iron heads.
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04-18-2006, 08:27 AM
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If the intake manis are different I guess that could account for it then. In that case, Well done! 
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you can tell theyre different just by looking...mine has the LS1 style plastic runners for the upper intake
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04-18-2006, 01:53 PM
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true dat
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04-18-2006, 03:19 PM
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well the pics look decent the back looks excellent but i think u need to smooth out the front by the maf very uneven and cant be good for flow there gt it like the examplt pic u show earlier
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OK, I didn't realize the FWD and RWD motors were so different. Really nobody has noticed gains then they do this or even out-flowed the stock TB in their application, nobody N/A at least,but I guess the f-bodies and w-bodies are that different
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ive never heard of anyone saying this, i dunno if your refering to only v6 throttle bodies because i dont know diddly about v6 tb's but i know ls1 tb are very important thing to do and most say its about 7-12 rwhp mainly because it comes into a smaller hole than the tb blade is i believe the blade is 78mm but the hole actually comes down to about 75mm then opens up again to the blade and thats what u smooth out and stuff to use its full potential and smooth out flow, agian i dunno if u were refering to v6 applications only but if not there u go,
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