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Knipps · 01-01-2007, 12:33 AM

how far can a town cop go and still be within his own jurisdiction?

jw because i was followed last night out of town and there were atleast two more cops tonight in the wrong town looking for people

qwikz28 · 01-01-2007, 01:14 AM

fyi- i was pulled over in mahwah by a suffern cop once... he simply radioed in a mahwah cop, told him why he pulled me over, and let the mahwah cop take over. i didnt get a ticket but i dont see why he couldnt do that

Knipps · 01-01-2007, 01:28 AM

i keep seeing ramsey cops in mahwah.

the one the other night followed me down franklin tpke to bosco where i got on 17 then got off at MacArthur & he gave up (but followed me off the exit)

qwikz28 · 01-01-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevelle 454

i keep seeing ramsey cops in mahwah.

the one the other night followed me down franklin tpke to bosco where i got on 17 then got off at MacArthur & he gave up (but followed me off the exit)

damn thats quite a ways for him to be following you... i never had a problem with ramsey cops. they seem to be nice and respectful. mahwah cops on the other hand always bother me, especially late at night on Macarthur. i swear that road is a speed trap

johnjzjz · 01-01-2007, 11:26 AM

it depends on the chief -- some will in a high speed chase will let them go 50 miles if need be

Knipps · 01-01-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28

damn thats quite a ways for him to be following you... i never had a problem with ramsey cops. they seem to be nice and respectful. mahwah cops on the other hand always bother me, especially late at night on Macarthur. i swear that road is a speed trap

oh definitely, they know people love that straight away
when i went to high school i'd take macarthur up b/c i could have some fun before school started

Teds89IROC · 01-01-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevelle 454

i keep seeing ramsey cops in mahwah.

the one the other night followed me down franklin tpke to bosco where i got on 17 then got off at MacArthur & he gave up (but followed me off the exit)

maybe that was my cousin

He always patrols over there

NJSPEEDER · 01-01-2007, 02:31 PM

if an officer has already started the process of pulling you over it can be considered persuit even if the lights and sirens are not going.
the example would be if a cop clocked someone speeding and had pulled behind the person and while doing the initial call in of the vehicle information you crossed into another jurisdiction, they still have the ability to pull you over and issue a ticket. they are supposed to make the local jurisdiction aware of the situation before they exit their own vehicle though, just for safety.

Mike · 01-01-2007, 03:03 PM

a cop in any nj jurisdiction has full powers on and off duty while anywhere in the state...

maroman88 · 01-01-2007, 06:15 PM

yea, a cop can pull you over while on duty in any town in NJ and write a ticket as long as its on that towns ticket book, an off duty officer can as well but i wouldnt recomend they try to pull anyone over in there POV lol. once your a sworn law enforcement officer in NJ, whether on or off duty, you have full police powers within the state. port authority owns, they have full powers in new york and new jersey

Fast92RS · 01-01-2007, 06:58 PM

I beleive since they passed a law that an officer can carry his firearm off duty anywhere in the country even if he is not in his home state makes him have police powers anywhere. Im not sure if they can pull people over for traffic violations.

jimmyboy8301 · 01-01-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by maroman88

yea, a cop can pull you over while on duty in any town in NJ and write a ticket as long as its on that towns ticket book, an off duty officer can as well but i wouldnt recomend they try to pull anyone over in there POV lol. once your a sworn law enforcement officer in NJ, whether on or off duty, you have full police powers within the state. port authority owns, they have full powers in new york and new jersey

it does not have to be on that towns ticket book. the ticket money will go to the issuing officers town. most towns mutual aid out for eachother meaning they help eachother out. they don't neccessarily need to have the violation happen in their town and as for our police powers: any new jersey law enforcement officer has full police powers in all 50 states on and off duty.

unstable bob gable · 01-01-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyboy8301

it does not have to be on that towns ticket book. the ticket money will go to the issuing officers town. most towns mutual aid out for eachother meaning they help eachother out. they don't neccessarily need to have the violation happen in their town and as for our police powers: any new jersey law enforcement officer has full police powers in all 50 states on and off duty.

Hmmm, ya learn sumthin' new everyday...

Knipps · 01-01-2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyboy8301

it does not have to be on that towns ticket book. the ticket money will go to the issuing officers town. most towns mutual aid out for eachother meaning they help eachother out. they don't neccessarily need to have the violation happen in their town and as for our police powers: any new jersey law enforcement officer has full police powers in all 50 states on and off duty.

they're everywhere!!!

qwikz28 · 01-02-2007, 12:10 AM

lol if i were a cop i would go to a completely different state and mess with people. imagine being in newark and being pulled over by a montana state police car with a really country looking white guy coming out the car... i dont know what im talking about

bad64chevelle · 01-02-2007, 12:30 AM

yeah....about that jake....

DieselKickYoAss4Sure · 01-02-2007, 09:58 AM

in PA state troopers cant pull you over if either they are not wearing their hat or 2 if one of the lights is out on their patrol car! so what makes a NJ Cop so special that they can pull you over off duty and in other states? and i know they cant pull you over in another state for a fact because there was an issue at the delaware water gap a lil while ago were a truck full of drugs whent through the gap into Pa and NJ cop couldnt pull it over until a few miels up were Pa troopers got him!

V · 01-02-2007, 10:34 AM

If im standing on the border line of mexico with a huge diamond i stole and a cop is on the US side.. then i'm untouchable?

DieselKickYoAss4Sure · 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM

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If im standing on the border line of mexico with a huge diamond i stole and a cop is on the US side.. then i'm untouchable?

you need to add more of a twist to that, YOur standing on the border of mexico with your diamond and a "NJ" cop is right there if you slap him/her in the face are you untouchable?

Knipps · 01-02-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokingSS

If im standing on the border line of mexico with a huge diamond i stole and a cop is on the US side.. then i'm untouchable?

blue streak

SupermanX24 · 01-02-2007, 11:59 AM

great movie, good point too.

jimmyboy8301 · 01-02-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselKickYoAss4Sure

in PA state troopers cant pull you over if either they are not wearing their hat or 2 if one of the lights is out on their patrol car! so what makes a NJ Cop so special that they can pull you over off duty and in other states? and i know they cant pull you over in another state for a fact because there was an issue at the delaware water gap a lil while ago were a truck full of drugs whent through the gap into Pa and NJ cop couldnt pull it over until a few miels up were Pa troopers got him!

i'm sure there are other states that are recignized law enforcement through all 50 states however since i work in NJ i don't worry about other states. NJLE powers in other states were granted by a bill passed through legislature. I never said anything about being pulled over by a NJ cop in another state off duty i said "having full police powers off duty in all 50 states" IE: if they are witness to a bank robbery in kansas they have the power to act in that situation. I see no reason why they would pull over a car off duty in another state. As far the police chasing the car across state lines it depends on the SOP's of that particular department. I knew of several instances where town and state police from NJ have chased a vehicle across state lines into PA and affected an arrest back from when I was a dispatcher. There is no absolute answer in this type of thing and no definates. There are WAY too many variables and again it depends on that particular departments SOP's. As far as PA troopers not being allowed to stop you if they do not have their hat on or if a light is out that is most likely one of those "you can't park your horse on main street on a sunday" type of things. I'm sure if the motor pool is short and they need to pull a car to use with a light out that particular car is going on the road and will most likely pull a stop also. And i'm sure the ticket written will hold up in court also even if the one little flashing light is out.

jimmyboy8301 · 01-02-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevelle 454

blue streak

maybe you can get some powers from superman and fly away too after you do it lol

DieselKickYoAss4Sure · 01-02-2007, 05:07 PM

A ticket will not stand in court if trooper is not in uniform or car has a light out! i heard this strait from a pa state trooper!

jimmyboy8301 · 01-02-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselKickYoAss4Sure

A ticket will not stand in court if trooper is not in uniform or car has a light out! i heard this strait from a pa state trooper!

again not everything is absolute in this business. it may indeed be an SOP but there are always extenuating circumstances.