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			i have to say for the most part i agree with them.... main reason being because we still have the basement to screw around with and the money they make from joining the basement is just going right back into the club so i really dont have a problem paying
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Im for the changes, I wouldnt have a problem paying for the basement except 
 
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			Where is the "who cares" option. I think too many people are making too big a deal about it. They aren't asking for your blood, they just want people to act more mature.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Where is the "who cares" option. I think too many people are making too big a deal about it. They aren't asking for your blood, they just want people to act more mature. 
			
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				Where is the "who cares" option. I think too many people are making too big a deal about it. They aren't asking for your blood, they just want people to act more mature. 
			
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 Exactly.  But it appears there are a lot of immature people who can't converse without cursing, arguing or flaming other people for no reason.  Almost every car board on the web has even stricter rules than what they have put in place here.  You can't go through life acting like an @ss forever.  The new rules put this board more in line with all the others out there.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Exactly.  But it appears there are a lot of immature people who can't converse without cursing, arguing or flaming other people for no reason.  Almost every car board on the web has even stricter rules than what they have put in place here.  You can't go through life acting like an @ss forever.  The new rules put this board more in line with all the others out there. 
			
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				Exactly.  But it appears there are a lot of immature people who can't converse without cursing, arguing or flaming other people for no reason.  Almost every car board on the web has even stricter rules than what they have put in place here.  You can't go through life acting like an @ss forever.  The new rules put this board more in line with all the others out there. 
			
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				Exactly.  But it appears there are a lot of immature people who can't converse without cursing, arguing or flaming other people for no reason.  Almost every car board on the web has even stricter rules than what they have put in place here.  You can't go through life acting like an @ss forever.  The new rules put this board more in line with all the others out there. 
			
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 Im all for these new rules...some people are taking it way out of hand, and its the same people that have been spoken to about the way they act on the boards. Joking around with someone you know is one thing, maliciously acting towards other members is another.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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with so many memebers from so many differnet areas, there is no way anyone can be expected to know exactly who is freinds with who and what jokes can be taken as offensive or out of context.  
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				Im all for these new rules...some people are taking it way out of hand, and its the same people that have been spoken to about the way they act on the boards. Joking around with someone you know is one thing, maliciously acting towards other members is another. 
			
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			the new rules, and growth as a reason behind them are fine.  but many people have their underpants in WAY too big a twist over this no matter which side your on.  whos to say a stupid pollitical or bench racing conversation dosent offend me as much as cursing offends you?  yet they stay and language goes to a kindergarden level.  the language used here is no different than the language used in american culture EVERY DAY and i challenge everyone that says that there should be no profanity to this bet... 
 
every time you curse at a meet or in some real life club event, give tim and justin 5 bucks.  they would make some real money there (much of it out of their own pockets)... 
 
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				and a big thing is people being worried about "not safe for work" or "not safe for school" material.....well maybe you should be doing your job, or your classwork instead of surfing a car forum.... 
 
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			02-14-2007, 05:25 PM
			
			
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			yeah gangbangers and other scumbag inmates do it to me.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-14-2007, 05:26 PM
			
			
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				yeah gangbangers and other scumbag inmates do it to me.    
			
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