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usp55 · 03-30-2008, 09:04 AM

Ok I have decided that’s my next goal for the car. It’s a 94 3.4L with a cutout. The cut out does not sound to bad to be honest and it surprises people even my neighbor who has a restored Malibu, but I want more, I want a deeper sound. I thank a cam upgrade will also help but from what I read I should do the headers first. I have a few questions

1. Best place for prices?

2. I know I need better gaskets and locking bolts, where to get?

3. All the pacesetters I see for the 3.4l camaro say "w/o air" what are they talking about and did all 3.4l come without air injection?

4. ERG - is that going to be a problem on the passenger side? - I don’t want to have to delete it.

5. I have factory exhaust - will these headers fit right up to the factory exhaust? or do I have to upgrade that also?

6. Will the addition of pacesetters really improve the sound of to my car? I mean really noticeable? I don’t want to put 230 into the headers and another 375-400 for instillation if im not gona improve the sound

7. Anything I missed?

WildBillyT · 03-30-2008, 09:30 AM

In my opinion, you will not get depth without more displacement. On my GTP I had a larger downpipe, high flow cat, and SLP Loudmouth and it sounded decent at idle but the depth just wasn't there. That's not to say a V6 can't sound good, but if you are looking for that rumbly V8 tone I have a feeling you won't get it.

usp55 · 03-30-2008, 09:48 AM

i happy with the cutout now - i have a soundclip in my sig that is really distorted because the microphone on that camera could not handle the loud volume, ive been meaning to get a better clip up there. So im looking to enhance it alittle more and i think the only option is headers and them a more agressive cam sometime over the summer.

bubba428 · 03-30-2008, 10:34 AM

best price is summit for the pacesetters, they come with decent gaskets, some 3.4s had A.I.R, they make them with an EGR provision, and you will notice a bit more aggressive tone, but the 3.4 top end flows so horribly poor that it won't make a huge difference in the exhaust note. It should line up with your factory exhaust, the Y pipe that is included fallows the same routing.

usp55 · 03-30-2008, 10:57 AM

i found the headers for $225 shipped from herron performance - thats the cheapest i can find - its the installation that gona break my piggy bank. and then the possibility that it might not sound much different or give me and performance gains.

bubba428 · 03-30-2008, 11:14 AM

you'll get gains out of it, 15hp or so. in the long run combined with other mods it will make a difference. There is no "magic mod", the 3.4 is very tough to see gains from. headers, you probably already have a CAI, 18/19lb injectors and AFPR, and you'll see about 30-40hp at the flywheel at most. I forget if your car is manual or auto, but the 3.4 just doesn't have the grunt to spin the auto and its gonna be hard to notice a difference until you make a big gain.

usp55 · 03-30-2008, 11:19 AM

auto

waiting on a good deal on a used k&N CAI - i just missed one last week. they run about 230 or so i think new.

bubba428 · 03-30-2008, 11:20 AM

230 is about right....I just got the $60 universal kit from advance auto and it worked just fine

usp55 · 03-30-2008, 11:23 AM

hmmm, i didnt realize there was a universal kit. Are u talking just the filter itself or a complete system. I couldnt find any universal kit on their website.

bubba428 · 03-30-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by usp55

hmmm, i didnt realize there was a universal kit.

it doesn't fit exactly, and it uses flex tube HAHA

usp55 · 03-30-2008, 11:28 AM

...hey if it works

Knipps · 03-30-2008, 11:34 AM

or you could go to a hardware store and pick up the stuff to make your own..
my friend insists on spending the 200+ for his Camry..

Blacdout96 · 03-30-2008, 04:36 PM

you can buy the APC universal aluminum C.A.I at advance auto, you just gotta drill a hole for the iat sensor. and I think you need to cut it backa tad and it'll fiut right in. A few years back my friend had a 3.4 Firebird, and I installed that on there. 225 for a sets a good price.

bubba428 · 03-30-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96

you can buy the APC universal aluminum C.A.I at advance auto, you just gotta drill a hole for the iat sensor. and I think you need to cut it backa tad and it'll fiut right in. A few years back my friend had a 3.4 Firebird, and I installed that on there. 225 for a sets a good price.

theres a hole for the IAT now...at least mine had one

chemicalstylez · 04-09-2008, 02:28 PM

Buy a Z28.