  | 
	
	
 
 
		
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			11-19-2008, 11:14 PM
			
			
		 | 
		
			 
			#1
			
		 | 
	
 
	
			
			
			
						
			
			
				
			
			
				 
                                        
				Join Date: Nov 2008 
				
				
				
					Posts: 11
				 
				
				
				
				
				    
                                    
                                 
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
				
				Broken manifold bolt
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			The guy I got the car from broke two manifold bolts off in the head.  I was going to pull the heads and drill them out on the bench to make sure I get a good strait line for the bolt extractor, but I was thinking about giving it a try with the heads still on the car. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				94 Z28 SLP cai, magnaflow exhaust, Granatelli MAF/Elbow
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			11-19-2008, 11:21 PM
			
			
		 | 
		
			 
			#2
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Mongo the Meet Coordinator 
			
						
			
			
				
			
			
				 
                                        
				Join Date: May 2008 
				
				
				
					Posts: 16,941
				 
				
				
				
				
				    
                                    
                                 
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		 
			
			Which ones? And are you good with a right angle drill? Sure enough that if you mess up, the heads will have to come off anyway?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  KirkEvil
					 
				 
				repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			11-20-2008, 07:23 AM
			
			
		 | 
		
			 
			#3
			
		 | 
	
 
	
			
			
			
						
			
			
				
			
			
				 
                                        
				Join Date: Mar 2007 
				Location: NJ 
				
				
					Posts: 540
				 
				
				
				
				
				    
                                    
                                 
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		 
			
			I've done it a few times, never on an F body tho.  Drilled a hole in the bolt and used one of those easy out extractors.  One of them was on my old F150 and I was able to get it done during lunch break at work.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			11-20-2008, 08:00 AM
			
			
		 | 
		
			 
			#4
			
		 | 
	
 
	
			
			
			
						
			
			
				
			
			
				 
                                        
				Join Date: Nov 2008 
				
				
				
					Posts: 11
				 
				
				
				
				
				    
                                    
                                 
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		 
			
			I'd like to think I'm pretty good with a drill. They are the back two on the driver side.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				94 Z28 SLP cai, magnaflow exhaust, Granatelli MAF/Elbow
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			11-20-2008, 08:09 AM
			
			
		 | 
		
			 
			#5
			
		 | 
	
 
	
			
			
			
						
			
			
				
			
			
				 
                                        
				Join Date: Mar 2007 
				Location: NJ 
				
				
					Posts: 540
				 
				
				
				
				
				    
                                    
                                 
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		 
			
			I'd try to avoid taking the head off unless you really need to.  How much room do you have to work next to the manifold?  My third gen looks pretty easy from the drivers side but the passengers side would be tight.  Only other thing I could think that may help would be to unbolt the drivers side motor mount so you can jack the side of the engine up to give you some more room to work.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			11-20-2008, 01:01 PM
			
			
		 | 
		
			 
			#7
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Sliderule / Moderator 
			
						
			
			
				
			
			
				 
                                        
				Join Date: Oct 2004 
				Location: Catawissa PA 
				
				
					Posts: 2,294
				 
				
				
				
				
				    
                                    
                                 
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
			Common problem with early LT1.  Check the passenger side front bolt too ( pull the alternator ), it's probably sheared off too.  The early TL1 seems to have problems with the exhaust bolts bottoming out ( possible the holes weren't deep enough when driller/tapped, and it's always the same bolts, driver rear/pass front ( same holes during machining )). This allows the manifold to warp over time with the twisting of the engine and over time the bolts shear   
 Did you pull the exhaust manifold off yet?  Sometimes just the head of the bolts shear off and you can get a visegrip on them and spin them out.
 
 If they are sheared off clean with the head, you are going to have to pull the head to remove them, there is no way to get to the bolt with the engine sitting back that far under the cowl. 
 
 There is one other option to consider if you can't get the rear bolt out..... The LT1 head has two outer bolt holes, the stock manifolds use one, but MAC shortie headers use the other.  So you might have to install shortie headers if you can't get the rear bolt out!    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				93Z M6 Black:  The 385 Lives!  Supercharged, 3-core front mount intercooler, GTP heads, 3:73's, Street twin clutch, Jethot Longtubes, Mufflex 4" catback/spintech, S+W cage, Spohn Suspenion, Yada Yada Yada 
 
1) Build it 
2) Race it 
3) Break it 
4) Repeat!!!
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			11-20-2008, 04:17 PM
			
			
		 | 
		
			 
			#8
			
		 | 
	
 
	
			
			
			
						
			
			
				
			
			
				 
                                        
				Join Date: Nov 2008 
				
				
				
					Posts: 11
				 
				
				
				
				
				    
                                    
                                 
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
			Thanks for all the suggestions! 
Pampered I love that idea! I can tell her it is not a "mod" its a "fix"   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				94 Z28 SLP cai, magnaflow exhaust, Granatelli MAF/Elbow
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			11-20-2008, 05:42 PM
			
			
		 | 
		
			 
			#9
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Mongo the Meet Coordinator 
			
						
			
			
				
			
			
				 
                                        
				Join Date: May 2008 
				
				
				
					Posts: 16,941
				 
				
				
				
				
				    
                                    
                                 
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		 
			
			MAC mids. For all that work, go big.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  KirkEvil
					 
				 
				repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			11-20-2008, 05:56 PM
			
			
		 | 
		
			 
			#10
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Meet Coordinator 
			
						
			
			
				
			
			
				 
                                        
				Join Date: Jan 2008 
				Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach 
				
				
					Posts: 19,370
				 
				
				
				
				
				    
                                    
                                 
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		 
			
			i was going to mention the fact that there are two outer bolt holes. good luck
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			11-20-2008, 07:27 PM
			
			
		 | 
		
			 
			#11
			
		 | 
	
 
	
			
			
			
						
			
			
				
			
			
				 
                                        
				Join Date: Nov 2008 
				
				
				
					Posts: 11
				 
				
				
				
				
				    
                                    
                                 
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		 
			
			After much thought I think I'm going to pull the heads, have new guides, springs put in and DIY port them.   
Shownomercy: I wanted to do LT but I already have 1 single magnaflow cat that came with the car. The LTs I wanted(LPP) don't have any of the emission hookups. I thought about leaving the stock stuff on for inspection and swapping it over to LTs after but I'd really like to put the headers I get into place while I got the heads off. 
  I miss that about Indiana 0 inspection. If the car ran you could plate it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				94 Z28 SLP cai, magnaflow exhaust, Granatelli MAF/Elbow
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
			11-20-2008, 08:39 PM
			
			
		 | 
		
			 
			#12
			
		 | 
	
 
	| 
			
			 Mongo the Meet Coordinator 
			
						
			
			
				
			
			
				 
                                        
				Join Date: May 2008 
				
				
				
					Posts: 16,941
				 
				
				
				
				
				    
                                    
                                 
			 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		 
			
			No no mids. They will use the single cat and have all emissions nonsense hookups.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				
					Originally Posted by  KirkEvil
					 
				 
				repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 
			 
		
		
		
		
	 | 
 
	
		 
		
		
		
		
		 
	 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
 
	
		
 
  
	
	
	
	
	
		
	
		 
		Posting Rules
	 | 
 
	
		
		You may not post new threads 
		You may not post replies 
		You may not post attachments 
		You may not edit your posts 
		 
		
		
		
		
		HTML code is Off 
		 
		
	  | 
 
 
	 | 
	
		
	 | 
 
 
    
    | 
  | 
 
 
 |