Volt mileage

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090811/...m_volt_mileage

Discuss.

[LTb1ow]

And when you plug it in at home to charge it, and the electricity used is generated from plants burning coal in Ohio....

Circle logic no?

[BonzoHansen]

It really only gets 150 mpg, but they got Al to agree to push each one of them 100 miles a week to get the mileage up. In exchange Al gets to sit in a new Camaro every Saturday monring and go 'vroom vroom'.

[LTb1ow]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

It really only gets 150 mpg, but they got Al to agree to push each one of them 100 miles a week to get the mileage up. In exchange Al gets to sit in a new Camaro every Saturday monring and go 'vroom vroom'.

hahahahahahah This is ftw.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

It really only gets 150 mpg, but they got Al to agree to push each one of them 100 miles a week to get the mileage up. In exchange Al gets to sit in a new Camaro every Saturday monring and go 'vroom vroom'.

I was waiting for something like this! Although it came a little faster than expected haha

[V]

i really considered getting one, but the first model years high price tag stopped that as of now

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

It really only gets 150 mpg, but they got Al to agree to push each one of them 100 miles a week to get the mileage up. In exchange Al gets to sit in a new Camaro every Saturday monring and go 'vroom vroom'.

On the other hand I think it's pretty scumbaggy of them to make a claim like this. I'm sure your local dealer will not tell you about the "fine print" of the 230mpg deal. After people get the true mileage of the car they will be disappointed, thus hating GM even more..

Just my .02.

[sweetbmxrider]

sweeeeeeeeet mooar petroleum for me's!!

[7pointoh]

If they can get the price down to 25 grand. I'd get one.

[Knipps]

they're already going to lose money on every model so i doubt there would be a price drop any time close to the first model year

[BigAls87Z28]

There is no announced price...so people are jumping the gun.

If you go less then 40 miles to work, and back...then you will never use gas. So it will get unlimited miles per gallon of gas.
I travel 18 miles to work, round trip. Even if I go to my fathers for lunch, thats another 2 miles total.

Even at the magic-number-pulled-out-of-the-hat "40k" they were talking about, there is already set up in place, a 7500 tax rebate for a car like that.
For the math wiz kids...thats 32,500. And thats with the current, Bush-program tax rebate. Current administration was looking at 10 grand for a car like the Volt.

[thunder]

i actually read something about Volts being like a nation wide battery pack. the idea was that they charge over night during off peak hours and then during peak hours which would be mid day that they could be used to sell power back to the grid at a higher price than when it got charged. Thus helping powerplants run much more efficently.i dunno just thought that was kinda cool

[NastyEllEssWon]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

There is no announced price...so people are jumping the gun.

If you go less then 40 miles to work, and back...then you will never use gas. So it will get unlimited miles per gallon of gas.

as much as i like the volt, i do not agree with that statement. you need to wait till you see how much it costs per month with the electric bill to plug in the car

[BigAls87Z28]

Pennies. Your electrical bill might go up 10-20 bucks a month.
I think your average person fills up once every week to two weeks.
So thats, at minimum, is 2 times a month.
Let me know if you can fill up your car, from empty to full, twice a month, for less then 20 bucks.














you cant, so dont bother, just sit back and wonder why you didnt think of that before you made your post.

[NastyEllEssWon]

no one knows for sure how much electricity these things are going to send up the bills in real life. why is it so hard to fathom that if someone drives their car every day, plugs it in every night then at the end of the month their bill ends up being 100 some bucks over what it usually is....especially in the summer months.




also how clean is this new energy if were all jacking into out electrical outlets driving up our power usage. your just sweeping it under the carpet again.



also dont these require some type of special plug ??? id like to see how this goes in real life is all al. if you cant see that then take off your Government Motors blinders and look around

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

no one knows for sure how much electricity these things are going to send up the bills in real life. why is it so hard to fathom that if someone drives their car every day, plugs it in every night then at the end of the month their bill ends up being 100 some bucks over what it usually is....especially in the summer months.

Does your electrical bill climb more then 100 bucks a month if you have your AC unit pluged in and running?
Department of Energy already did studies...and so did GM. Increase in your electrical bill will be fractional compared to the cost of gas in a midsized car.

It wont cost you more then 100 bucks a month. You think GM didnt think of that part?

also how clean is this new energy if were all jacking into out electrical outlets driving up our power usage. your just sweeping it under the carpet again.

Smarter, better, more effiecent power grids are already in development.
GM isnt the only one coming up with an electrical car like this.

also dont these require some type of special plug ??? id like to see how this goes in real life is all al. if you cant see that then take off your Government Motors blinders and look around

No, you are just being a stuborn ass. Ive picked up on it, lots of people dont really give a ****, dont have an open mind, or just like to bring up the goverment motors nonsense as if it was some sort of joke.

GM supplies the plug. You get a set up for your house to charge the car up on 220, and a 110 portable inverter that comes with the car when you are away from home.

There are no blinders. You just like everyone else that has some sort of grudge against GM. I really am growing tired of being the GM "fanboi" and some how I always walk into the hornets nest because I support a company? Because I like to educate the ignorant?

Do you honestly think that GM just threw this idea out, without thinking of all the angles? Without being asked all these questions four million times since 2006?
First questions out of anyones mouth when they hear about the Volt tend to be:
Well how much is my electrical bill going to be?
How long to charge it up?
Whats the total range?
What happens when the power runs out?

Your questions have been answered dozens of times. Im not just coming up with this info as I lay here.
You think that they are going to invest billions of dollars in developing probably the most signifigant car in 100 years, only to be rocked by one of your super-smart questions? That they are gunna hang it all in the breeze on a hunch that this could work?

[NastyEllEssWon]

i would feel silly if i wasnt skeptical about new technology....i mean...i remember seeing a front page article that the segway was gonna change the face of transportation

[BigAls87Z28]

I can see being skeptical on the actual ability of the car. That goes with any brand new car, be it a Hyundai or a BMW.
Segway is a very cool device, but very bulky for city use, and not enough range for suburban use. Its cool to take Segway tours of major cities, and it actually does very well with small police patrols. I know a lot of police and security agencies that use them a lot. I know Freehold mall has a few of them.

[thunder]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Does your electrical bill climb more then 100 bucks a month if you have your AC unit pluged in and running?
Department of Energy already did studies...and so did GM. Increase in your electrical bill will be fractional compared to the cost of gas in a midsized car.

It wont cost you more then 100 bucks a month. You think GM didnt think of that part?



Smarter, better, more effiecent power grids are already in development.
GM isnt the only one coming up with an electrical car like this.



No, you are just being a stuborn ass. Ive picked up on it, lots of people dont really give a ****, dont have an open mind, or just like to bring up the goverment motors nonsense as if it was some sort of joke.

GM supplies the plug. You get a set up for your house to charge the car up on 220, and a 110 portable inverter that comes with the car when you are away from home.

There are no blinders. You just like everyone else that has some sort of grudge against GM. I really am growing tired of being the GM "fanboi" and some how I always walk into the hornets nest because I support a company? Because I like to educate the ignorant?

Do you honestly think that GM just threw this idea out, without thinking of all the angles? Without being asked all these questions four million times since 2006?
First questions out of anyones mouth when they hear about the Volt tend to be:
Well how much is my electrical bill going to be?
How long to charge it up?
Whats the total range?
What happens when the power runs out?

Your questions have been answered dozens of times. Im not just coming up with this info as I lay here.
You think that they are going to invest billions of dollars in developing probably the most signifigant car in 100 years, only to be rocked by one of your super-smart questions? That they are gunna hang it all in the breeze on a hunch that this could work?

haha u say the things im too lazy to type.but i got ur back haha

[Syzygy]

im going to get one and charge it with my generator.

[sweetbmxrider]

how does a/c and heat work on the electric motor?

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by Tsar

On the other hand I think it's pretty scumbaggy of them to make a claim like this. I'm sure your local dealer will not tell you about the "fine print" of the 230mpg deal. After people get the true mileage of the car they will be disappointed, thus hating GM even more..

Just my .02.

I'm not sure if it's scumbaggy. If that is the EPA rating (not sure) then I guess it's ok to tell people. If so the problem is the EPA may need different ways to measure mpg, or really cost per mile.

230 sure does help the CAFE numbers - now they can build more camaros!

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

I'm not sure if it's scumbaggy. If that is the EPA rating (not sure) then I guess it's ok to tell people. If so the problem is the EPA may need different ways to measure mpg, or really cost per mile.

230 sure does help the CAFE numbers - now they can build more camaros!

Not sure who rated it at 230mpg but I don't think it's right in any case. There's the whole talk of 40 gas free miles, but what are the conditions of these 40 electric miles? Must one drive without headlights, ac/heat, and music on to preserve the electric charge in addition to driving like a grandma? Or is 40 gas free miles based on doing 0-60 balls out from every traffic light (doubt that one) with everything on. I wonder what the real gas free mileage would be, and I would be surprised if Volt broke a total of 50MPGs in real life driving.

And just like I said before I do not know anyone who does less than 40 miles per day, much less 20 miles to work one way. I kinda wanna see what this thing does, but I think it will be a big failure in the eyes of the consumer if its sold as "230mpg" car...

Oh, Nissan put out its own claim of 367mpg for the leaf after these number Clicky

[Tsar]

EPA backs away from GM claim of 230 mpg for Volt

EPA has not tested a Chevy Volt and therefore cannot confirm the fuel economy values claimed by GM.

[WildBillyT]

"MPG" is secondary. It's ****ing electric car that actually is usable in everyday life. Kudos to GM for getting this far, now they just can't kick the ball in the street like usual.