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		|  03-26-2012, 10:41 AM | #1 |  
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				Purolator calls out Fram with their cardboard end caps
			 
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		|  03-26-2012, 10:51 AM | #2 |  
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			Niceeeeeeeeeeee love purolator!
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		|  03-26-2012, 10:54 AM | #3 |  
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		|  03-26-2012, 02:29 PM | #4 |  
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			hahah thats great!
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		|  03-26-2012, 04:55 PM | #5 |  
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			lol awesome
		 
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			But can a Purolator do this?  
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			^ About the only thing they're good for
		 
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			LOL that's awesome! I bailed on Fram a long time ago. I use Wix on my wife's Liberty, and OEM Nissan for my G35.
		 
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		|  03-26-2012, 07:41 PM | #9 |  
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			thats nothing new about fram
		 
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		|  03-26-2012, 10:52 PM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by trashman01  thats nothing new about fram |  Not new but it's the first time (that I know of at least) where another company called them out for building ****.
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		|  03-27-2012, 07:50 AM | #11 |  
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			I try to tell people how inferior they are, but in some cases, people walk right out of my work when I tell them we don't carry them, only Wix filters. Fram has built up quite a customer base since other companies did very little in the brain sapping world of TV commercials.
		 
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		|  03-27-2012, 08:13 AM | #12 |  
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			i used fram no more after this
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			Saw the dumbest thing in the world the other day at advanced auto; guy spent $$$ on synthetic oil for his car, puts a fram oil filter next to it.
		 
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		|  03-27-2012, 10:37 AM | #14 |  
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			I really hate when autozone or Advanced has their oil deals for frams. I buy the fram just to get a discount and then buy a filter of my choice and throw the fram out when I get home lol
		 
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		|  03-27-2012, 10:46 AM | #15 |  
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			Can't you just return the filter?
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		|  03-29-2012, 08:00 AM | #16 |  
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			wow thats funny.  I've used fram in the past but know I use Mobil 1 filters on my Legacy and Purolator on the RS
		 
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		|  03-29-2012, 10:16 AM | #17 |  
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		|  04-02-2012, 09:51 AM | #18 |  
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				If you actually want to know something about oil filters
			 
 
			
			
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		|  04-02-2012, 10:58 AM | #19 |  
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			Cliffs for video? thanks... from everything ive seen, i wouldnt put a fram on my lawn mower, much less a vehicle
		 
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		|  04-02-2012, 11:05 AM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by Squirrel  Cliffs for video? thanks... from everything ive seen, i wouldnt put a fram on my lawn mower, much less a vehicle |  Really? Why not watch the videos and learn something? Purolator doesnt want to talk about filter efficiency, so they jump on the slam FRAM bandwagon? Pathetic. Fram is OE on Hondas and Subarus, obviously very reliable cars. AC Delco uses a felt end cap. Bentley and Nissan both use fiber end caps. Toyota uses no end caps at all. End caps dont filter the oil, the media does. Our efficiency is 96% to 99% percent depending on the model using the only OE recognized test ISO 4548-12. Purolator posts results using some BS test that uses bowling ball size particles.
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		|  04-02-2012, 11:22 AM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by motorking  Really? Why not watch the videos and learn something? |  its much more efficient to read a summary than watch a 10 minute video
		 
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		|  04-02-2012, 11:23 AM | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by Squirrel  its much more efficient to read a summary than watch a 10 minute video |  So you really dont want to know?
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		|  04-02-2012, 11:26 AM | #23 |  
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			I get it, industry says non-metal end caps are ok. But industry also has ways of doing cheap things because they are cheap, not better. Why doesn't FRAM just use metal end caps and then have superior media and construction?
		 
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					Originally Posted by sully91rs  I get it, industry says non-metal end caps are ok. But industry also has ways of doing cheap things because they are cheap, not better. Why doesn't FRAM just use metal end caps and then have superior media and construction? |  Seems plenty of other companies are making filters this way including GM. Why? Because nothing seals the ends of the media cartridge better. Ever try to glue something to a smooth surface? Metal end caps do not make a filter better, expensive media does. The Bentley filter is ona 345,000 dollar car. Why? Because it works.
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		|  04-02-2012, 11:42 AM | #25 |  
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			It could have the best specs of any filter out there and i still wouldnt use one because theyre flat out ugly... its like marrying a girl solely for her personality
 edit: and a fram filter is on that bentley because im assuming fram won the contract bid....
 
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