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12-27-2014, 12:00 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Delran
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First Time New Car Purchase...Any Tips?
So I've been saving for a long ass time to buy a brand new car and since it looks like we wont be getting any really bad weather this year, Im gonna start going around to dealerships to take a look at the offerings. I was just wondering if there any surprise hooks or dealer tricks that I should be aware of buried in the paperwork. Ive never had payments or financed a vehicle in my life...its always been handled with cash.
If you also know good dealerships to deal with, I'm open to hear about that. Looking to stick with GM/Ford/Dodge.
Last edited by NastyEllEssWon; 12-27-2014 at 12:01 PM.
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12-27-2014, 12:06 PM
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11 second club / Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: West Berlin, NJ
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Buy Gap insurance. Buy a warranty to cover the length of your loan.
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12-27-2014, 04:35 PM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Millstone Township, NJ
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Are you trading anything in? Never tell them what you are comfortable paying per month. They will try and pitch other items when you go to sign the final financing paperwork. Don't be afraid to walk away if you are uncomfortable.
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12-27-2014, 04:55 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
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*Don't* get gap insurance through the dealer. Try not to finance through them, either - Line up financing and GAP elsewhere. Most times, you can get a better deal. Know what rebates are available and make sure you're getting them. Also don't be afraid to deal, the worst that can happen is they say 'no'.
Don't get suckered into talking about monthly payments. Work on the total price of the car first.
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12-27-2014, 05:43 PM
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11 Second Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Edison, NJ
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end of the month deals are the best.
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2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.
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12-27-2014, 06:10 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Delran
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
Are you trading anything in? Never tell them what you are comfortable paying per month. They will try and pitch other items when you go to sign the final financing paperwork. Don't be afraid to walk away if you are uncomfortable.
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The walking away part I have covered already  Trading in anything, no. I do have about 30 grand in the bank to work with. Pretty interested in a new Corvette or even a Hellcat Charger if I can find one, but Im trying to not go over 55 overall. Im actually considering taking a look at the newer mustangs too. Just want to make sure I dont fall into a rookie mistake or being suckered into something stupid on the bottom end buried in the paper work.
Last edited by NastyEllEssWon; 12-27-2014 at 06:11 PM.
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12-27-2014, 07:37 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hamilton, NJ
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make sure you get the undercoating
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12-27-2014, 08:02 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: West Milford
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You may pay a premium on the h/c or new vette right now..to the tune of 5k over sticker +/-. Imo you should wait until the hype dies down on these cars (vette may be fine now though being its been out awhile). For a vette, Kerbeck is pretty good for deals I've heard. If your interested in a ford I know a good dealer that can't be beat..fellow 3rd gen owner whos a salesman. Pm me if you want the info.
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12-27-2014, 08:54 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
make sure you get the undercoating
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Speaking of that, the original owner of my GTA got the undercoating and the fabric anti-stain treatment... Now, the bottom of the car looks great and solid and the seats are in excellent shape... maybe it was worth it. haha.
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12-27-2014, 10:03 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: West Long Branch
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Like they said, get loan through your bank and drive them on price. Once you get a loan from the bank, you can walk in and talk pure price. I would call or shop on the internet as the internet sales people are not paid on commission but to drive business into the store. Get the best deal over the phone or online and then walk in with the numbers.
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12-28-2014, 08:19 AM
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Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
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Fix up a tj or jk wrangler and trade that **** in!
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12-28-2014, 12:35 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Delran
Posts: 6,785
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
Fix up a tj or jk wrangler and trade that **** in!
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thats actually not a bad idea, lol jeep call signs baffle me though....are wranglers actually holding their value well enough to be worth the time?
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12-28-2014, 07:16 PM
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Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
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I've seen the price drop just a little in the used private market but dealers seem to still be giving them good trade in. There are projects out there that can be fixed up and flipped for profit, no doubt. 97-06 = tj 04-06 tj unlimited = lj (stretched rear tub) 07+ jk or jku (4 door)
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12-28-2014, 07:21 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Somerset, NJ
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try your best not to tell them your budget or what you are willing to pay monthly.
worst thing you can do is go in there emotionally attached to a car. apparently dealers can tell if you are emotionally attached or not. you have all the power in the world to say yes to a sale or no. the dealer has no power. the dealer makes money off of you. once they are aware that you know that then they start working with you.
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12-28-2014, 08:04 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
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Also, if you're putting enough cash down you *don't* need gap insurance.
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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12-28-2014, 08:32 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
make sure you get the undercoating
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Most places don't do that anymore...nor is there a need. I don't know of any dealership around that will do it. I've had a few Camaro owners inquire about it...can't find anyone to do it(private shops).
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Originally Posted by The_Bishop
Also, if you're putting enough cash down you *don't* need gap insurance.
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this ^^^. Gap is only if you're going to be taking on a loan that is more than the car's value.
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Last edited by Frosty; 12-28-2014 at 08:32 PM.
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12-28-2014, 08:35 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
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...and to echo what others have said. Don't talk "payments", talk PRICE. The most classic thing a salesman will do is ask what you're comfortable with monthly payment wise....once they nail you to that they have you. You won't get the best deal if you talk only in monthly payments.
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2010 Infiniti G37x-Moonlight White w/Graphite interior. Stock...for now. Xpel XR Black tint(hey it's a mod lol)
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12-28-2014, 10:52 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Brick, NJ
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I've heard some really good things about flemington ford and I have had good experiences at lester glenn. Stay away from pine belt
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12-29-2014, 07:33 PM
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9 second club
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ocean co.NJ
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Do you home work, research everything, if you find a stellar deal print out online ad and bring it with you to the dealership. Don't let anyone talk you into anything your not comfortable with. If you feel that you need a back seat I'd go with a Camaro personally otherwise I'd go with the Vette. Don't be afraid of low mileage trades or demos. Just make sure you're getting a good deal on one. Nothing wrong with someone else paying down the depreciation.
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12-30-2014, 01:39 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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ive bought a few brand new cars and the main thing ive noticed is when they bring you the first payment option just say wow, sorry for wasting your time, we arent exactly in the same ball park, shake their hand get up and walk out. but you also have to be willing to legitimately leave and not come back, it does work well though, i had them take over $200/month off the one car i bought because they tend to try to hit a home run on their first attempt at selling you the car.
also i am a fan of GAP, god forbid you do total the car you have to worry about the car payment aaand the medical bills
and finally the obvious do your research, look up reviews on the dealership, and go in knowing what car you want as well as try to find out pretty much everything you can about the car before going
good luck and enjoy the new car whenever you get it man
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12-30-2014, 06:35 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
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Nasty, if you end up wanting a Chevy message me, I'm not in sales but I have a very good relationship with the sales mangers and the general manager up front.
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2018 Camaro 2SS Redline package, ESC Novi 1500 tuned by EFX, Might Mouse wild catch can, GM STB, smoked ZL1 3rd brake light, Xpel XR Black 35% tint all around, Street Scene front splitter, C7 Carbon ZL1 side skirts, Drake Muscle Car Wickerbill spoiler
2010 Infiniti G37x-Moonlight White w/Graphite interior. Stock...for now. Xpel XR Black tint(hey it's a mod lol)
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12-31-2014, 05:07 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Delran
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transampete
Do you home work, research everything, if you find a stellar deal print out online ad and bring it with you to the dealership. Don't let anyone talk you into anything your not comfortable with. If you feel that you need a back seat I'd go with a Camaro personally otherwise I'd go with the Vette. Don't be afraid of low mileage trades or demos. Just make sure you're getting a good deal on one. Nothing wrong with someone else paying down the depreciation.
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Low mileage trades and demos are the reason I waited till this year to seriously start shopping. I couldve started last August but everything was still too new and buying a performance car right before winter didnt seem too smart, especially since I dont have a garage.
Frosty - I'll let you know dude, Im really liking the new vette but looking at options right now I can get a Base model Convertible Corvette or a well optioned Hard top, depends on which seems like the better deal...Ultimately I'd love to end up with a z51 Convertible...which there dont seem to be too many of so the pricing is kind of on the higher end.
also thanks for the help so far guys...things like gap insurance help out tremendously reading into it. the last thing id like is for my first new car purchase to tank me financially
Last edited by NastyEllEssWon; 12-31-2014 at 05:08 AM.
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01-01-2015, 08:15 AM
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11 Second Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Edison, NJ
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Look into credit unions... some have much better interest rates then ghe banks the dealer works with. some even offer free gap insurance with it too
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1999 Z28 Convertible. 6 speed swap, wide cowl hood, full hockey stripes, and a whining 10 bolt.
2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.
2006 GTO, 11.48 @ 118.3
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01-01-2015, 04:46 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Garden State
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
Low mileage trades and demos are the reason I waited till this year to seriously start shopping. I couldve started last August but everything was still too new and buying a performance car right before winter didnt seem too smart, especially since I dont have a garage.
Frosty - I'll let you know dude, Im really liking the new vette but looking at options right now I can get a Base model Convertible Corvette or a well optioned Hard top, depends on which seems like the better deal...Ultimately I'd love to end up with a z51 Convertible...which there dont seem to be too many of so the pricing is kind of on the higher end.
also thanks for the help so far guys...things like gap insurance help out tremendously reading into it. the last thing id like is for my first new car purchase to tank me financially 
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Jay good luck with your new car search.
You can't go wrong with a z51 it literally does everything I would want stock.
When I wanted to get mine I found a financial option that wouldn't be impactful to my bottom line. I used penfed credit union auto payment saver loan that I only pay the depreciation over 5 years at 2.49 % and combined with my card earnings and college discount for 10k off a car no one was discounting I have a car payment lower than my 5 th gen SS.
Just one alternative to consider and GAP is included with the option.
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01-01-2015, 06:16 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
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What happens after the 5th year? Some sort of huge balloon payment? Might not seem so good, then.
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1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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