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View Poll Results: Headers or Gears!?
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05-27-2007, 10:39 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hamilton, Nj/Glassboro, Nj
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Headers Or Gears????
Hey i have a 94 camaro z28 daily driver with magnaflow exhaust and an intake and some other stuff but anyways lets get down to what i wanna know! I wanna either do headers or gears one or the other the ups and downs are
Headers:
20-30hp
$650
better sound
Gears .373
$900
Better acceleration
worse gas mileage on highway.
Let me know if you guys have done either of these to your lt1 and what u would recommend remeber:i want to do only one so please help me out ! thanks! ~Cam
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94 Camaro Z28-CAI with bellow, LCAS, 3.73 gears, A4, 275/40/zr17-silver Zr1's, Magnaflow Stainless steel exhaust. For Sale-This Spring Best 1/4 Time-13.5-Sold
CURRENT RIDE- 99 Z28 with Ground Effects Slp intake Exhaust and Short Throw shifter- best 1/4 -13.34@105.6 New mods yet to be tested->Pacestter long tubes--->Tune by TTP= 349 RWHP 362 Ftlbs
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05-28-2007, 12:53 AM
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I will beat you with a toaster!
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I did both on my Camaro, and I noticed ALOT more out of the gears. Went from 3:23 to 3:73 and a tune and never looked back. I gained from the headers also, but felt alot stronger after the gears.
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05-28-2007, 02:25 AM
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headers without question
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05-28-2007, 03:07 AM
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4.10s.
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Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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05-28-2007, 04:03 AM
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of course you would say that, im still debating on if im gonna get 3.73s or 4.10s, i think im gonna go with 4.10s cuz 3.42s to 3.73s isnt that big of a jump
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05-28-2007, 05:23 AM
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4.10 is fine for a daily driver... I did it for what, a year?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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05-28-2007, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hamilton, Nj/Glassboro, Nj
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now i dont do too much highway driving but with these gas prices how much would 373's or 410's cost more a year on gas.
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93 Civic HB 1.5L-70hp :-p-Sold
94 Camaro Z28-CAI with bellow, LCAS, 3.73 gears, A4, 275/40/zr17-silver Zr1's, Magnaflow Stainless steel exhaust. For Sale-This Spring Best 1/4 Time-13.5-Sold
CURRENT RIDE- 99 Z28 with Ground Effects Slp intake Exhaust and Short Throw shifter- best 1/4 -13.34@105.6 New mods yet to be tested->Pacestter long tubes--->Tune by TTP= 349 RWHP 362 Ftlbs
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05-28-2007, 08:54 AM
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well at 60mph on stock speedo you be going 56-58...not that big a loss so figure 10-15 miles less per tank
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05-28-2007, 09:01 AM
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Go with gears. LT1 manifolds dont flow TOOOOOO bad. Gears will wake that car up. I wouldn't put in more then 3.73's in the stock 10 bolt....
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05-28-2007, 09:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deadtrend1
Go with gears. LT1 manifolds dont flow TOOOOOO bad. Gears will wake that car up. I wouldn't put in more then 3.73's in the stock 10 bolt....
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yup....now why are the gears $900??? I can get an eaton posi at advance auto for $500.
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Last edited by bubba428; 05-28-2007 at 09:09 AM.
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05-28-2007, 10:05 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: clifton
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both don't be cheap i just spent 2 grand in suspension ,ground control coil overs 650 600 springs, 12 adjustable shocks and bigger sway bars
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05-28-2007, 10:09 AM
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3:73s w/ a 3200 converter would be the best money spent. took over one half second of my ETs
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05-28-2007, 10:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubba428
yup....now why are the gears $900??? I can get an eaton posi at advance auto for $500.
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still a high price for an Eaton posi ..... and 7.5" gears are nowhere near $900.00
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05-28-2007, 03:01 PM
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gears are a way better bang for the buck and will not mess up mileage, that is jsut an old wives tale. most people will see the same or in some cases even slightly better highway mileage. your mileage around town will change if you like messing around, but that is up to how you drive more than the gears.
i would also suggest looking for a better shop to do the gears, 900 bones to put in 3.73's(you shoudl do 4.10's) is crazy
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05-28-2007, 05:46 PM
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I noticed a huge difference on my car with gears, I went from 2.77 to 3.42. I also noticed a huge difference with headers too. I voted for headers and after rethinking, they're both good  I say do whatever is in your budget first. But definitely do them both at some point.
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05-28-2007, 06:26 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hamilton, Nj/Glassboro, Nj
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SO CONFUSING either way they sound awesome and if i got gears i would be getting 373's and i would install them myself so whats a good place to buy them??
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93 Civic HB 1.5L-70hp :-p-Sold
94 Camaro Z28-CAI with bellow, LCAS, 3.73 gears, A4, 275/40/zr17-silver Zr1's, Magnaflow Stainless steel exhaust. For Sale-This Spring Best 1/4 Time-13.5-Sold
CURRENT RIDE- 99 Z28 with Ground Effects Slp intake Exhaust and Short Throw shifter- best 1/4 -13.34@105.6 New mods yet to be tested->Pacestter long tubes--->Tune by TTP= 349 RWHP 362 Ftlbs
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05-28-2007, 06:43 PM
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Have you ever done a gear install before?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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05-28-2007, 06:48 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hamilton, Nj/Glassboro, Nj
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actually i lied i thought i was gonna do them but just looked at what it takes to gett hem done so prolly around 900 with install?????any suggestions on whos good to get them done at
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93 Civic HB 1.5L-70hp :-p-Sold
94 Camaro Z28-CAI with bellow, LCAS, 3.73 gears, A4, 275/40/zr17-silver Zr1's, Magnaflow Stainless steel exhaust. For Sale-This Spring Best 1/4 Time-13.5-Sold
CURRENT RIDE- 99 Z28 with Ground Effects Slp intake Exhaust and Short Throw shifter- best 1/4 -13.34@105.6 New mods yet to be tested->Pacestter long tubes--->Tune by TTP= 349 RWHP 362 Ftlbs
Last edited by Camvill; 05-28-2007 at 06:48 PM.
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05-28-2007, 06:57 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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toms auto hes good, fast, and doesn't over charge he's near englishtown raceway park
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05-28-2007, 07:00 PM
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900 is high for a gear install.......and if you buy gears, buy a new aluminum differential cover to add a little strength
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Quote:
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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05-28-2007, 07:03 PM
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o and id go with headers first before gears that way when your car is performing better you shouldnt need to go w/ the higher 410 gears and i feel that 410's are very anoying around city (maybe its an m6 thing could work out better w/ a4)
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05-28-2007, 07:03 PM
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anywhere around central nj that does them cheap??
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93 Civic HB 1.5L-70hp :-p-Sold
94 Camaro Z28-CAI with bellow, LCAS, 3.73 gears, A4, 275/40/zr17-silver Zr1's, Magnaflow Stainless steel exhaust. For Sale-This Spring Best 1/4 Time-13.5-Sold
CURRENT RIDE- 99 Z28 with Ground Effects Slp intake Exhaust and Short Throw shifter- best 1/4 -13.34@105.6 New mods yet to be tested->Pacestter long tubes--->Tune by TTP= 349 RWHP 362 Ftlbs
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05-28-2007, 07:08 PM
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that is in central nj
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05-28-2007, 07:22 PM
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BadMod
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i have no problems with my 4.10s on the street, and i like the fact that 6th gear is now useable
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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05-28-2007, 07:27 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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i have a 4 speed auto though 
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93 Civic HB 1.5L-70hp :-p-Sold
94 Camaro Z28-CAI with bellow, LCAS, 3.73 gears, A4, 275/40/zr17-silver Zr1's, Magnaflow Stainless steel exhaust. For Sale-This Spring Best 1/4 Time-13.5-Sold
CURRENT RIDE- 99 Z28 with Ground Effects Slp intake Exhaust and Short Throw shifter- best 1/4 -13.34@105.6 New mods yet to be tested->Pacestter long tubes--->Tune by TTP= 349 RWHP 362 Ftlbs
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