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I weighed my Z today. Its 3300 lbs without the spare and a near empty tank, other than that no weight reduction. Seems like a pretty big jump in weight to go up to the 2 ton mark.
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Most of that is updated crash standards, no doubt.
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07-20-2008, 08:16 PM
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....and LT1 cars 
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shut up! lol
i meant current NEW cars. leave my 13yo LT1 outa this!
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07-20-2008, 08:18 PM
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From what has been told, when the air bags go off, there will be NO room to move...
They want this car to be 5 star all the way around.
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07-20-2008, 08:47 PM
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The Newer Tank?
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
3900lb rating is for the SS, not the V6.
V6 will be 200lbs or so less.
For 6 years, all the nay sayers were correct.
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Fixed.
What happened Al? You kept saying the Camaro was going to be much lighter than the Challenger. (aka the tank) Not so much.
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07-20-2008, 08:49 PM
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07-20-2008, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Featherburner
Fixed.
What happened Al? You kept saying the Camaro was going to be much lighter than the Challenger. (aka the tank) Not so much.
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Ill wait till Monday, but so far Im pretty dead on.
If V6 Camaro comes in around 3700lbs, and SS comes in less then 3900lbs, that means the 4200lb SRT8 is still several hundred pounds heavier with the RT not being that much lighter then SRT8.
I never said that Camaro was going to be Mustang light, but be lighter then Challenger.
It is lighter then the Challenger, and will have less weight with same power as both the SRT8 and RT package.
V6 car is also some 200lbs lighter then SE Challenger.
Camaro is lighter then Challenger. Everyone was talking about Camaro coming in at over 4k lbs with a V8, like the Challenger, with V6 coming near teh 2k mark.
Camaro is lighter becaue it is also much smaller then the Challenger.
Is the Camaro as light as I would have liked? No, I think that another 100lbs off each one would have been better.
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07-20-2008, 10:16 PM
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then = time.
than = comparison.
kthxbye
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07-20-2008, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Knipps
then = time.
than = comparison.
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07-20-2008, 11:33 PM
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They said the SS will be 'at least' 3900 pounds, and the SRT8 is 4124, 200 pounds in a street car is nothing. Thats the difference between an average driver and a half way decent driver. But weight isnt all you have to take into consideration, you have the power curve on the motor, gear ratios, rear end, drivetrain efficiency, weight transfer, traction, etc. I still think they'll be pretty dead even performance wise. I'm surprised nobody is trying to compare them to the Mustang, that comes in roughly 500 pounds lighter, and has the likes of Roush, Shelby, and Saleen making them much faster.
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07-20-2008, 11:38 PM
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Its funny Al rounds DOWN the 3747 pounds of the V6 Camaro but rounds UP the 4124 pounds of the SRT8 Challenger. At least stick to the same rounding method.
Camaro will be just as much of a tank as a Challenger 
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07-21-2008, 12:09 AM
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Where did they end up putting the gas door?
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Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
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07-21-2008, 11:58 AM
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Passanger side, damn RHD.
Alright, while Camaro isnt light, its not as heavy as Challenger, nor as big. 189 inches, I think thats almost a foot shorter then the Challenger.
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07-21-2008, 01:08 PM
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so you're saying that if it WERE as big as the challenger, it would weigh more.
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07-21-2008, 01:17 PM
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i want one. i need a job. a better job.
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07-21-2008, 03:22 PM
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it's worth a shot, and it's for my sanity lol
the latest one is steve with him wandering.. sometimes I wonder.
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07-21-2008, 03:29 PM
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it's worth a shot, and it's for my sanity lol
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yeah. he wanders a lot.
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07-21-2008, 03:50 PM
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did I screw that up? Crap! I've been using the wrong version in business emails for years!
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07-21-2008, 03:51 PM
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t-minus 10 mintues...
Media Advisory: Webcast to Unveil 2010 Camaro
07/21 9:28 am (PR)
Story 1067 (GM)
Today, Monday July 21, 2008 at 4 pm EDT Chevrolet will unveil the production version of the 2010 Camaro in a live webcast hosted by Ed Peper of Chevrolet and Ed Welburn of GM Design. To watch the live Camaro reveal go to http://camaro.gmnext.com and click on the "Camaro webcast" link. It will also be archived on the site for future viewing. Press materials will be available for immediate release at 4 pm EDT at http://media.gm.com .
Chevrolet experts will also conduct three 30 -minute webchats on Tuesday, July 22 from 9:30 to 11 am EDT at http://camaro.gmnext.com . Schedule is as follows: 9:30 am - John Fitzpatrick, Chevrolet marketing manager; 10:00 am
Mike Simcoe, executive director of Design; and 10:30 am
Doug Houlihan, vehicle chief engineer.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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07-21-2008, 03:54 PM
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sweet!
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07-21-2008, 03:55 PM
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I just wanna know the msrp of the v6 :shrugh:
For the price of the SS I would rather buy CTS, MB300, or Audi 
*waits...*
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07-21-2008, 04:05 PM
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26mpg out of the v6 on the highway? my car gets better and its 12 years old with 180k on the clock...
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07-21-2008, 04:05 PM
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website.. not ... making video... work
but the photo gallery does  That Aqua Blue Metallic looks amazing. It looks a little like the old LT-1 Chameleon color.
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07-21-2008, 04:06 PM
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Yeah way too many people trying to get on. I'll wait for the press release.
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07-21-2008, 04:06 PM
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works fine for me, i had to click refresh though before it sarted to work
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07-21-2008, 04:09 PM
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it took a little bit to load, but worked for me. i just don't feel like watching it.
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