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		|  01-07-2009, 04:37 PM | #1 |  
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				need advice for beating a red light ticket.
			 
 
			
			Got a bs red light ticket this evening in Dumont.
 Anyone have any advice for beating it.  Or should I just not bother and just pay it and forget about it?
 
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 I was going straight down the road at a T intersection.  Honestly the light was yellow and turned red as I was going thru it.  Cop was on the perpendicular side street waiting behind 3-4 cars of traffic so I don't even know how he could possible say he saw me blewing thru the light.
 
 Also it was at night and raining pretty hard.  Such BS.
 
 Has anyone been able to beat one of these type tickets?
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		|  01-07-2009, 04:38 PM | #2 |  
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			Don't run yellow lights.
		 
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			if u got a good record, plead it down to unsafe, bigger fine, no points
		 
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			yeah I just think it's such bs the way they just want the money.
		 
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			I wish we could follow all the cops in their cars and watch the way they all drive.
 They run around the streets like they own the place and we regular folks
 
 get banged out for the dumbest things.
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		|  01-07-2009, 05:14 PM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by twin99  .......
 get banged out for the dumbest things.
 |  you said the light tuned red as you went through it.  So, bottom line, you went through a red light.  It happens, take it to court and plead it down.
		 
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			u couldnt come up with a good excuse to tell the officer? like your tires are getting bad and if u hit the breaks too hard you thought you would have slid into the intersection?
 the last few times i got pulled over ive been down to earth with the officers and avoided a whole court scenario just by showing respect and honesty.
 
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		|  01-07-2009, 05:28 PM | #8 |  
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			ya honestly you admitted it. so you did it. now work with the system and give them money.
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			I just called 911 and told them I got robbed for $500.  
 And when the cop asked me if I might know who or how
 
 I got robbed I told him I got robbed by the police.
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		|  01-07-2009, 07:13 PM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by twin99  I just called 911 and told them I got robbed for $500.  
 And when the cop asked me if I might know who or how
 
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					Originally Posted by madness410  u couldnt come up with a good excuse to tell the officer? like your tires are getting bad and if u hit the breaks too hard you thought you would have slid into the intersection?
 the last few times i got pulled over ive been down to earth with the officers and avoided a whole court scenario just by showing respect and honesty.
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		|  01-07-2009, 07:21 PM | #12 |  
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			In our great state of New Jersey the yellow light means to start slowing down not to proceed through the yellow light. Just pay the ticket and get it over with would be the easyiest thing to do. Its something petty and should not end up being a lot of money.
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		|  01-07-2009, 07:24 PM | #13 |  
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			Even if you plead the ticket down and pay a larger fine, most auto insurers will assess your policy based on the original violation.  Pleading down may get you fewer points against your license depending on what you're allowed to plead to.
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		|  01-07-2009, 07:33 PM | #14 |  
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			Pretty much what everyone else said, you were in the process of crossing the intersection when the light turned red. Thats considered running a red light. Yellow doesnt mean 'hurry the **** up before it turns red', it means to slow down before it turns red. Pay the fine.
		 
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		| In our great state of New Jersey the yellow light means to start slowing down not to proceed through the yellow light. Just pay the ticket and get it over with would be the easyiest thing to do. Its something petty and should not end up being a lot of money. |  Yup. You nailed it.
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		|  01-08-2009, 04:46 PM | #16 |  
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			If you can't beat them join them.
 I submitted my application today to become a NJ State Trooper so all you guys are getting written up for tickets.  From your load a$$ exhaust, to your tinted windows, bald slick tires, driving too fast, driving too slow, hell just for driving.
 
 I am even going to ticket your grandma because her grandson owns a Hot Rod.
 
 LOL.......Just kidding.  What pisses me off was that I wasn't even in my race car.
 
 Well anyways.......next time I am not stopping.  All or nothing.  Like on "COPS" where a failed inspection sticker turns into an OJ helicopter chase.
 
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		|  01-08-2009, 05:41 PM | #17 |  
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		|  01-08-2009, 06:40 PM | #18 |  
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		|  01-08-2009, 06:56 PM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by twin99  If you can't beat them join them.
 I submitted my application today to become a NJ State Trooper so all you guys are getting written up for tickets.  From your loud a$$ exhaust, to your tinted windows, bald slick tires, driving too fast, driving too slow, hell just for driving.
 
 I am even going to ticket your grandma because her grandson owns a Hot Rod.
 
 LOL.......Just kidding.  What pisses me off was that I wasn't even in my race car.
 
 Well anyways.......next time I am not stopping.  All or nothing.  Like on "COPS" where a failed inspection sticker turns into an OJ helicopter chase.
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make sure you spell correctly on the application, and i hope you mean an application for the exam and not a job...because thats isnt how they do things
		 
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			i would ask for ridiculous stuff in discovery and most likley court would not be able to comply so thats one way to try to get it dismissed my friend done it he asked for some kinda engineers survey which is what townships are suposed to do before putting up a sighn or light and it worked... but that was for a stop sign, u can research and try for yours but dont get ur hopes up
		 
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					Originally Posted by twin99  If you can't beat them join them.
 I submitted my application today to become a NJ State Trooper so all you guys are getting written up for tickets.  From your load a$$ exhaust, to your tinted windows, bald slick tires, driving too fast, driving too slow, hell just for driving.
 
 I am even going to ticket your grandma because her grandson owns a Hot Rod.
 
 LOL.......Just kidding.  What pisses me off was that I wasn't even in my race car.
 
 Well anyways.......next time I am not stopping.  All or nothing.  Like on "COPS" where a failed inspection sticker turns into an OJ helicopter chase.
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		|  01-08-2009, 07:10 PM | #22 |  
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			Best thing you can do is plead not guilty and talk to the officer and prosecutor. Be straight and tell them you know you made a mistake going through the light. Just say that you can't really afford the points on your license and your insurance. 99 times out of 100 they will give you a bunch of fines that will cost you more initially, but will save you long term by avoiding insurance increases and surcharges
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		|  01-08-2009, 07:10 PM | #23 |  
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					Originally Posted by procamaroz28  i would ask for ridiculous stuff in discovery and most likley court would not be able to comply so thats one way to try to get it dismissed my friend done it he asked for some kinda engineers survey which is what townships are suposed to do before putting up a sighn or light and it worked... but that was for a stop sign, u can research and try for yours but dont get ur hopes up |  now that sounds like it might work.....thanks
 
When I went thru the light it just turned yellow and I wasn't even driving fast as there was cars in front of me so it's possible that it turned red by the time I was finished crossing the intersection.
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			yellow dosent mean speed up........you ****ed up, live with it
		 
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					Originally Posted by cbrrmike  yellow dosent mean speed up........you ****ed up, live with it |  that's my problem....I didn't speed up.  I wasn't even driving fast that day as it was raining and icy out.  
 
So what you are saying is that if a person enters an intersection under a yellow light and doesn't leave that intersection while the light is yellow he should be subject to a red light ticket. 
 
So if that was the case why have a yellow light in the first place?
 
Any way the point of this thread is for ideas about how to get this ticket dismissed.  Not you f'ed up so now pay up because that's the real reason why I got it in the first place......because the town just wants my money to pay the cop's salary.
		 
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