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				ya i know i said it. but if i get a tail panel blacked out by berger chevy, i can call it just that. hell i'll find a painter who's name is berger and have him paint my ****! W!N 
			
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				Can I call mine a Kirkevil panel then? 
			
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				From here on out, it will be known as the Ignorant Pannel. 
			
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				From here on out, it will be known as the Ignorant Pannel. 
			
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				Is that an homage to the future as well? 
			
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GM will offer a blacked out tail pannel.  So if you do call it a Berger pannel, you should be kicked in the balls.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			because thats where the plant that GM used starting in 86 I believe...the one in ohio was shut down so all F-body production moved to canada...my 86 was a made in the USA F-body
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				because thats where the plant that GM used starting in 86 I believe...the one in ohio was shut down so all F-body production moved to canada...my 86 was a made in the USA F-body 
			
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			There was a deal struck in 87 to build the 4th gen in one of GM's most high tech, most flexible plants at the time, Ste.Therese since both Norwood was shut down in 87, and Van Nyes was being closed as well...I belive. 
 
They could built all the cars in one plant, and the CAW gave GM a better deal then the UAW. 
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				Actually, all third gens were assembled in either Ohio or California. The Ohio plant shut down in 87.  
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 The Ohio plant closed first, forget exactly when, and then Van Nuys, CA finished up production with the final car off the line being a red Z28 in 1992. 
 
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				The Ohio plant closed first, forget exactly when, and then Van Nuys, CA finished up production with the final car off the line being a red Z28 in 1992.  
 
BTT, the Caliber/Caliper thing always bothers me when people say it. It is BRAKE CALIPER NOT CALIBER!!! lol 
			
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				Citing its obsolescence, expense, and high worker absentee rate, GM announced the closing of the Norwood plant and ten other GM facilities on November 6, 1986. The Norwood facility produced its last vehicle August 26, 1987 - a Chevrolet Camaro. At the time of its closing the plant employed approximately 4200 workers. That date came to be known in Norwood as "Black Wednesday". 
			
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				Van Nuys Assembly was a General Motors automobile factory in Van Nuys, California. Opened as a Chevrolet plant in 1947, Van Nuys produced the Chevrolet Corvair, Chevrolet Nova, Chevrolet Camaro, and Pontiac Firebird. The plant was closed in 1992 when Camaro/Firebird production was moved to Saint Therese Assembly in Quebec. 
			
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				HAHAHA come on....I know I'm engaged and have a house and a job but when the hell did I somehow slip into the "old guy" category?  I'm only 27 for God's sake! 
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			yeah i never heard anyone reference a berger panel to any other car but a 4th gen. so your argument is moot.  
 
 
 
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read. 
 
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold.  I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors. 
 
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			You son of a bitch!  I was right in the middle of editing it!!   
 
 
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			Oh ok!  
Got one!  
 
When your talking to ford or import guys, and they always refer to is as "head and cams"  Ford would be "heads and cams"  
 
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			Ahaha...I laugh at them.   
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