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yup looks nothing alike to me. the front end is cheap and plasticy looking and the rear end looks like it was just that. rear ended.  im not a fan. 
  
 
only resemblence i see is the 1/4 windows. which are the only things i hate about a first gen camaro. 
 
my fav gen for f-bodies is the thirdgens but yeah.
 
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			just heard that hackensack (great american) chevy and englewood chevy got some on the lot... guna have to take a ride after work
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				just heard that hackensack (great american) chevy and englewood chevy got some on the lot... guna have to take a ride after work 
			
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				yup looks nothing alike to me. the front end is cheap and plasticy looking and the rear end looks like it was just that. rear ended. 
			
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			modern technology on the challenger? really? its a car that has retro style and retro engineering, put it on a diet and give it handling from something other than a barge. IRS FTW
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				modern technology on the challenger? really? its a car that has retro style and retro engineering, put it on a diet and give it handling from something other than a barge. IRS FTW 
			
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				im in that group with ya.....i love certain angles, hate others, but overall its "eh" for me.   it will probably grow on me though (ill admit it, the new mustangs have). 
 
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				yup looks nothing alike to me. the front end is cheap and plasticy looking and the rear end looks like it was just that. rear ended.  im not a fan.  
 
 
only resemblence i see is the 1/4 windows. which are the only things i hate about a first gen camaro. 
 
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				Looks alike to me just more modern...Cars big and i wished it performed a little better but is a sharp looking car... That being said Ill probably wait til the 5.0 stangs come back out and grab one of them.    
			
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