Drivers that will be 17 untill may 1 or after

[DAcoatAH]

screw this im not waiting untill im 21 to drive past 11:00pm... http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/About/safety_gdl.htm

[LTb1ow]

Wah, sucks to be you.

Don't drive if it makes you so upset. Its not a right.

[Tsar]

3M? If I used other "sticky tape", will I be fined too?

Well, I'm old enough to bypass this law, so I guess it sucks for someone who isn't. Although it's pretty stupid to say that a 20 year old shouldn't be out past 11pm..

[Tru2Chevy]

Originally Posted by Tsar

3M? If I used other "sticky tape", will I be fined too?

Not tape - It's 3M brand velcro, because if someone over 21 is driving the car, they are supposed to remove the reflectors.

- Justin

[transmaro93]

till 18 i can understand... but 21.. ehh... matt is right.. driving is a privilege not a right.. but 21 is a little excessive... i was the first year to have to get the provisional liscense at 17 man that was 7 years ago... damn... time flies... i wonder what is next after this law...

[redsoxsstink]

its only for drivers with a GDL, if you have a basic license your clear( the one you get at the age of 18). so if you had your GDL for a year and are eligable for a basic drivers license regardless of your age that law will not apply.

but it still sucks for me, i have to go 5 months until i get my basic. that law will not change anything, stupid people will stil crash regardless of the time of day....

[thunder]

Wouldnt the best way to make drivers better be to make the driving test somewhat challenging?Cause i know plenty of people who are over 21 and are more likely to drive up a tree than use a turn signal

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Not tape - It's 3M brand velcro, because if someone over 21 is driving the car, they are supposed to remove the reflectors.

- Justin

F that, I would not put some velcro crap on my car. Regardless, that's not what that part was about. I was questioning why they said/endorsed 3M and not some other company. Does no one else make it? Does 3m have a deal with NJ State gov? Will "I" be breaking the law if 3M is not used?

Last question is just for fun.

[V]

i wanna get the labels and put them on my car, give the cops somethign to do at night

[Featherburner]

Originally Posted by DAcoatAH

screw this im not waiting untill im 21 to drive past 11:00pm... http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/About/safety_gdl.htm

Did you actually read the law? It doesn't say you have to be 21 to drive past 11:00. You need to have an unrestricted license to drive after 11:00. For most people, that would be 18.

[ryanfx]

Originally Posted by redsoxsstink

...that law will not change anything, stupid people will stil crash regardless of the time of day....

The same thing could be said about speed limits. You gotta start somewhere.

[DAcoatAH]

Originally Posted by Featherburner

Did you actually read the law? It doesn't say you have to be 21 to drive past 11:00. You need to have an unrestricted license to drive after 11:00. For most people, that would be 18.

im 17 untill july 21, the law is effective may 1st i wont have my unrestricted licence

[Featherburner]

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Not tape - It's 3M brand velcro, because if someone with an unrestricted license is driving the car, they are supposed to remove the reflectors.

- Justin

Fixed

[Featherburner]

Originally Posted by DAcoatAH

im 17 untill july 21, the law is effective may 1st i wont have my unrestricted licence

But as of July 21 you can remove the stickers and drive after 11:00 because you'll have an unrestricted license.

[V]

yea, not a new law really, just new that they are marking the cars of gdl drivers now

[DAcoatAH]

Originally Posted by Featherburner

But as of July 21 you can remove the stickers and drive after 11:00 because you'll have an unrestricted license.

"effective May 1, 2010 all drivers under age 21, who are subject to the requirements of New Jersey’s Graduated Driver License (GDL), which includes those drivers possessing a special learners permit, examination permit or probationary (formerly provisional) license, must display a reflectorized decal on each license plate (front/back) of any motor vehicle they operate.
In addition to the decal requirement, effective May 1, 2010, New Jersey GDL drivers will also be subject to the following restrictions:

* May not operate a motor vehicle after 11:01 p.m. and before 5:00 a.m.
* May not use a hand-held or hands-free interactive, wireless communication device
* Unless over age 21, GDL drivers may only drive with the following passengers: Probationary (formerly Provisional) License Holder
-Parent(s), guardian(s) or dependent(s)
-One additional passenger unless accompanied by a parent or guardian."
dosent this mean i unless i have my UNRESTRICTED licence by may 1st (which i wont) i cant drive past 11pm untill im 21?

[BurninrubberGT]

so this definately doesnt affect everyone under 21? just people without a basic license? because i have seen articles that have said everyone under 21 and articles that say only permits and previsional licenses

[thor117]

how about we focus on the fact that this is actually profiling. which is highly frowned upon in our society as well as being illegal. so they are now making profiling legal. awesome.

[enRo]

Next step: implementing a senior citizen decal. Maybe white in color. Or one of these:








It doesn't apply to me... But really, is this suppose to "warn" experienced motorists that there is a new driver on the road?? Is this suppose to help experienced motorists drive extra cautious around these new drivers just because they have a red decal on their license plate, and have a higher risk of getting into an accident? Mind as well put a "Pull me over, I may be tweeting on my cellphone" sticker on the back window.

[Bcozzi71]

im confused .....so do all driver under 21 have to have these stickers? Or am i grandfathered in and only new drivers have to have the sticker?

[Mike]

Originally Posted by DAcoatAH

"effective May 1, 2010 all drivers under age 21, who are subject to the requirements of New Jersey’s Graduated Driver License (GDL), which includes those drivers possessing a special learners permit, examination permit or probationary (formerly provisional) license, must display a reflectorized decal on each license plate (front/back) of any motor vehicle they operate.
In addition to the decal requirement, effective May 1, 2010, New Jersey GDL drivers will also be subject to the following restrictions:

* May not operate a motor vehicle after 11:01 p.m. and before 5:00 a.m.
* May not use a hand-held or hands-free interactive, wireless communication device
* Unless over age 21, GDL drivers may only drive with the following passengers: Probationary (formerly Provisional) License Holder
-Parent(s), guardian(s) or dependent(s)
-One additional passenger unless accompanied by a parent or guardian."
dosent this mean i unless i have my UNRESTRICTED licence by may 1st (which i wont) i cant drive past 11pm untill im 21?

it is not changing how and when you can get your unrestricted license, it is changing what happens to the people that dont have one

[WayFast84]

its only for people with provisional.. If it were for everyone under the age of 21 they would make the provisional last till age 21.........

NJDMV is so crappy. $4 for stickers? My motorcycle permit is $5. Guess what they did when I finally was able to upgrade my license? They voided my permit. So now I get to give them more money and wait another 20 days till I take my test...

Edit

What CBRMIKE said. You can still upgrade your license within a year you get it. But for the people that don't upgrade and wait for it to expire you have to display the decals.

[DAcoatAH]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

it is not changing how and when you can get your unrestricted license, it is changing what happens to the people that dont have one

so when i turn 18 i get an unrestricted licence? even though i dont get it untill a couple months after the law takes effect

[thor117]

being as how I'm 20 now this shouldn't be an issue for me, but the whole profiling is ok thing just bothers me. I'm jewish should i go and sew a yellow jewish star onto my clothes like the nazi's did? or should i just have to put a decal on my car saying that. its just messed up in every respect. if the state feels that they're a hazard to other motorists then maybe the state shouldn't issue them a license. no one group is worse than another, its individuals who screw things up. the media just likes to make ratings off of "another teen driver getting into a horrific(possibly alcohol involved) car crash"
but seriously, if teens have to have a sticker, how about the elderly?

[Mike]

Originally Posted by DAcoatAH

so when i turn 18 i get an unrestricted licence? even though i dont get it untill a couple months after the law takes effect

YES, you get your unrestricted license whenever you already would have as long as you dont screw up, NOTHING is changing about that