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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Yeah I have talked to two guys on ls1tech about pull outs. Price difference is not much.
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Yea but a pullout would be from a stock ish non drag raced engine.
I dunno, seems like a real risk, or a good gain.
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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06-22-2010, 12:03 PM
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i have one from a truck its a POS but would work as a core to get rebuilt
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06-22-2010, 01:49 PM
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Al, I dunno how long you plan on waiting for a trans, but I'm pulling my 4L60e for a T56 I recently picked up soon... just don't know how soon. I'd be willing to let it go dirt cheap if you need it. It's still in the car, so if you wanted to take it for a ride to see how it runs, it's all good.
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06-22-2010, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by enRo
Al, I dunno how long you plan on waiting for a trans, but I'm pulling my 4L60e for a T56 I recently picked up soon... just don't know how soon. I'd be willing to let it go dirt cheap if you need it. It's still in the car, so if you wanted to take it for a ride to see how it runs, it's all good.
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06-22-2010, 03:42 PM
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Thanks Noah ill let you know.
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06-23-2010, 04:23 PM
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If anyone wants to stop by today, let me know. Im home early from my meeting so Ill be hangin outside. Dunno what to do now that everything is cleaned out. I was gunna jack the back end up and start to prep for gas tank removal. I should get a pump and suck out that gas....
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06-23-2010, 04:40 PM
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just let the tank down and then siphon it out after wards... that what i did... getting it back up with the tank full is harder than getting it out... and its a pain to siphon the gas out from the filler neck... dont think im gonna make it today though unless adam wants to pick me up... i just dont feel like driving..
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06-23-2010, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
If anyone wants to stop by today, let me know. Im home early from my meeting so Ill be hangin outside. Dunno what to do now that everything is cleaned out. I was gunna jack the back end up and start to prep for gas tank removal. I should get a pump and suck out that gas....
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yea got the sister's graduation nonsense and a final tmmr, so I am a no go tonight.
Friday evening I'll help you drop the rear if you haven't already.
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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06-23-2010, 04:51 PM
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I think Im gunna skip out on it tonight. I got my Corvette valley pan in the mail today. Might give that a try.
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06-23-2010, 09:50 PM
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Alright guys, Im trying to think of what kind of SFC's to go with. Ive searched on TGO and it seems to run the gambit in reguards to what fits better with the LS1 swap.
Third gen guys, what have you got?
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06-23-2010, 10:07 PM
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Now, I am a newb on the lameness of third gens... but you said the LS1 fits into stock crossmember, so why the need for different SFCs?
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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06-23-2010, 10:08 PM
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exhaust routing?
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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06-23-2010, 10:10 PM
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exhaust routing?
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I dunno?
I am going off 4th gen style and 2 points do not come anywhere near interfering with exhaust.
I dunno. 
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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06-23-2010, 10:11 PM
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yeah but its run differently on a third gen...
the floors should be the same though, al could probably use 4th gen subframe connectors and it will work
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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06-23-2010, 10:15 PM
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4th gen's front subframe is totaly different, different mounting points.
Its not a matter of a totaly different style, but there are several different times. Some run inside the frame rails, some run outside. Some are tubular, some are boxed. The problem arrises with the LT's and custom Y pipe, plus a bit of rerouting the exhaust around to meet with the I piple.
Standard y pipes for LT'ed small blocks will apparently not work. Dunno why since they would exit in the same manner, and 4th gen y's wont either/
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06-23-2010, 10:16 PM
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Looks like they all try to do a three point setup.
So the exhaust is the issue Al?
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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06-23-2010, 10:21 PM
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Exhaust can be an issue for some of them, tight fitment can be another. Ive looked at UMI's stuff and its pretty strong. Ive been reading over on TGO and some say its meh fitting, some say it fits like a dream.
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06-23-2010, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Exhaust can be an issue for some of them, tight fitment can be another. Ive looked at UMI's stuff and its pretty strong. Ive been reading over on TGO and some say its meh fitting, some say it fits like a dream.
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Can't they be custom made?
And why are you worrying bout SFCs ?
They certainly will not help that LS1 get into that turd gen, start doing the harness.
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06-23-2010, 10:36 PM
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Im really leaning towards sending it out. I guess its possible to knock it out in a few days, but its gunna be a biiiitch.
Alright, looking at three different different sets
Alston Racing gets fantastic reviews on TGO
UMI and BMR are tied for reviews. Some have said that welding in both the Alstons and the BMR's make the car super ridged, but why anyone would want to add that much weight to thier car unless they are pushing some serious power is beyond me.
Price wise, Alston's are the cheapest.
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06-24-2010, 07:28 AM
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i bet its going to be a bitch to get sfc's to fit well on a car from 87, especially 3 points.
worry about the exhaust after you have a motor and headers in so you can actually SEE wtf is up 
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06-24-2010, 07:29 AM
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Cant you use the same exhaust after the cat? Maybe some custom work up front.
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Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
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06-24-2010, 08:17 AM
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Custom work for the y is already known. That's the problem and why I need to worry about the sub frames
now and not later. No one makes a well fitting y pipe for this swap yet.
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06-24-2010, 08:18 AM
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Custom work for the y is already known. That's the problem and why I need to worry about the sub frames
now and not later. No one makes a well fitting y pipe for this swap yet.
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06-24-2010, 08:19 AM
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Welcome to modifying a car! Have one made, maybe try Mufflex. AAA Plus will tow you this far for free.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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06-24-2010, 08:31 AM
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If the OD of the tubing is the problem, look into having a y made with oval tubing. The equivalent of 2.5" round is only 1.75" oval. Pricey, but again- it is a swap.
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