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			lol @ the ferrari shirt, reminded me of   
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			wow man that sucks. if i were the owner of the 458, id kill the truck driver
		 
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			well its easy to see what happened. there was a car in front of the ferrari, we'll call that car A, most likely waiting to turn into that driveway/business entrance.  The F150 was in the driveway waiting to pull out.  Car A probably couldnt pull in with the f150 in the way so they stopped in the road and motioned or let the truck pull out.  Ferrari boy did not approve and wanted to speed up his journey through town so he said "F" car A and pulled around him, but just as the F150 pulled out.  so really, the Ferrari drove into the F150...
		 
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					Originally Posted by V  well its easy to see what happened. there was a car in front of the ferrari, we'll call that car A, most likely waiting to turn into that driveway/business entrance.  The F150 was in the driveway waiting to pull out.  Car A probably couldnt pull in with the f150 in the way so they stopped in the road and motioned or let the truck pull out.  Ferrari boy did not approve and wanted to speed up his journey through town so he said "F" car A and pulled around him, but just as the F150 pulled out.  so really, the Ferrari drove into the F150... |  Yup, agreed.
		 
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		|  02-02-2011, 01:49 PM | #6 |  
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			Not many can say they flexed out their truck on top if a ferrari. I agree this was the Ferrari drivers fault.
		 
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			lol now your going to see this pic on the ford forums lol the anti d-bag weapon . lol it's like once you get a $400,000+ car simple traffic laws just go out the window.
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					Originally Posted by redsoxsstink  Not many can say they flexed out their truck on top if a ferrari. I agree this was the Ferrari drivers fault. |  +1. F-150 power!
		 
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			look at the flex hahah damn. Must have been a North Jersey driver...
		 
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					Originally Posted by Firebird92  lol now your going to see this pic on the ford forums lol the anti d-bag weapon . lol it's like once you get a $400,000+ car simple traffic laws just go out the window. |  I just read an article on how countries in Europe are starting to link individual's income with their speeding fine. Guys are getting $50,000-$300,000 speeding tickets in places like Switzerland for being dickheads in exotics. And they are pretty unsuccessful in any type of legal action against it.
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					Originally Posted by WildBillyT  I just read an article on how countries in Europe are starting to link individual's income with their speeding fine. Guys are getting $50,000-$300,000 speeding tickets in places like Switzerland for being dickheads in exotics. And they are pretty unsuccessful in any type of legal action against it. |  That's epic.
		 
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			Win for the owner of the truck that posts a pic of that in a thread of trucks perched on snow mounds.
		 
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					Originally Posted by LS1Hawk  That's epic. |  Morally epic but also ridiculously unconstitutional in American court.
		 
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		|  02-04-2011, 08:37 AM | #16 |  
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					Originally Posted by r0nin89  Morally epic but also ridiculously unconstitutional in American court. |  How is it unconstitutional? 8th amendment?
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		|  02-04-2011, 08:41 AM | #17 |  
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			The 8th Amendment comes to mind lol, though there is an Excessive Fines Clause.
 Either way, to base a fine on someone's income is ridiculous.  I'll stop there at that point.
 
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					Originally Posted by Frosty  The 8th Amendment comes to mind lol |  But if you make $10 million a year, doesn't a $500 speeding ticket seem ridiculous, therefore making a $10,000 ticket seem not very "excessive"?
 
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			One's income should have no bearing on the fine imposed.  So is the guy that makes minimum wage, driving a clapped out '87 Camry any less guilty or any less responsible for a speeding ticket or moving violation?
		 
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		|  02-04-2011, 08:54 AM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by Frosty  One's income should have no bearing on the fine imposed.  So is the guy that makes minimum wage, driving a clapped out '87 Camry any less guilty or any less responsible for a speeding ticket or moving violation? |  Well, I'll give you a real life scenario, not linked to speeding.
 
I do not recall the name, but there was a company in South Plainfield that had a lot of Hazmat waste to get rid of from their galvanizing plant. Properly disposing of it was something like $10 million. The fine for dumping it? $2 million. So what do you think they did?
 
I think it's the same type of deal here. If you make a ****load of money, a regular fine is a slap on the wrist. And we already pay taxes linked to income.
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			I get what your saying, I just don't know if I agree with it.  Dumping hazardous material is a lot different than a speeding ticket.  As far as the tax analogy, that doesn't do it for me since I don't think we should have an income based tax system.     
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					Originally Posted by WildBillyT  I just read an article on how countries in Europe are starting to link individual's income with their speeding fine. Guys are getting $50,000-$300,000 speeding tickets in places like Switzerland for being dickheads in exotics. And they are pretty unsuccessful in any type of legal action against it. |  
but the thing is if you can have a car which cost 500,000 or up near a million then even that 50,000 to 300,000  is nothing.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Firebird92  but the thing is if you can have a car which cost 500,000 or up near a million then even that 50,000 to 300,000  is nothing. |  If you make 500k, and you get a 50k ticket, thats 10% of your income.   
If you make 30k a year, and get a $300 ticket...thats 1%.   
If you make a 1 mill a year, 300k is 30% of your income.   
I have no problem with adjusted fines.   
If you dont want to pay the fines, dont break the law.
		 
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			now imagine Bill Gates got a ticket for lets just say 3% of his yearly income...
 the fine would be $234 Million.  (based on $7.8B a year)
 
 If that happened im sure the town would get many needed public works projects done and the cop would wish they got a commission...
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