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04-04-2011, 06:58 PM
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Convertible cages/bars
What would this be rated to?
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04-04-2011, 07:00 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Nothing.
No door bars = not a roll bar.
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04-04-2011, 08:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTs1ow
Nothing.
No door bars = not a roll bar.
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Technically you need just the driver door bar 
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04-04-2011, 09:02 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Nothing is the correct answer. No door bars = not NHRA legal. It does not appear to have swing outs removed, either. That main hoop is smooth.
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04-04-2011, 10:43 PM
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its like. stylin' bar lol
or just a harness bar
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04-05-2011, 07:25 AM
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Are swingout's legal? I really don't want to climb over door bars in a dd but the idea of a vert is growing on me..
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04-05-2011, 08:16 AM
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Swing outs are good to 8.50, you are good.
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Nothing is the correct answer. No door bars = not NHRA legal. It does not appear to have swing outs removed, either. That main hoop is smooth.
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Yeah, rear bars need to be welded to the main hoop as well.
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04-05-2011, 10:51 AM
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Is that Ed's car?
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04-05-2011, 12:35 PM
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I don't know who's car it is..It is supercharged that's all I know..
In all seriousness at what E.T. Would atco get on a convertible for not having a bar?
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04-05-2011, 12:52 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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They busted my chops when I was running 13.00. I'll be adding a wolfe 6 pt with swingouts this season.
And yea, thats Ed Blown Vert's car....383 ls1 with D1SC....makes 666 to the wheels with a small shot (high altitude).
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04-05-2011, 12:53 PM
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Convertibles need a roll bar from 10.0 to 13.5. They will probably let you go low 12s though but you never know. ****'s supposed to get tight there.
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04-05-2011, 01:51 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WayFast84
I don't know who's car it is..It is supercharged that's all I know..
In all seriousness at what E.T. Would atco get on a convertible for not having a bar?
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In previous years, yes. This year and moving forward I have heard that they will be getting much more strict with tech inspections so maybe not.
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04-05-2011, 02:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverDropTop
They busted my chops when I was running 13.00. I'll be adding a wolfe 6 pt with swingouts this season.
And yea, thats Ed Blown Vert's car....383 ls1 with D1SC....makes 666 to the wheels with a small shot (high altitude).
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That guy needs more bar. Ignoring the obvious safety aspect that car must twist nicely.
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Originally Posted by WayFast84
Are swingout's legal? I really don't want to climb over door bars in a dd but the idea of a vert is growing on me..
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$0.02 – a convertible with a cage is not the world’s most practical college car. From a safety viewpoint it renders your back seat useless because the human head is not equipped to come in contact with the bars without negative repercussions. Belts stretch, people move around a lot in a collision. At some point in your college life you’ll get talked into driving somewhere and all you need to do is have some idiot run a light and hit you and blammo you have your own lawsuit to worry about. I commend you on considering the cage in the first place.
Also, I don’t know the area well, but in general college campuses are theft targets and soft tops are easy pickings. Just saying.
Carry on.
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04-05-2011, 03:18 PM
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Most colleges do not allow freshman to have cars on campus, and even more so, as a freshman why would you wanna leave? Best year right there...
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04-06-2011, 11:14 AM
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If I get that vert I would be letting go of a toy in the near future so I can afford to keep my DD... As for a college car I'm still waiting for my admission letters but I just heard of a program of felician college that runs through MCC.. It's like $100 more a credit than Kean but Accepts more transfer credits(I get free tuition at mcc) so that's high on my list right now..
Hopefully a nice hardtop or TTop car will pop up because I won't be going 11.50's and a bar is going to be really annoying..
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04-06-2011, 06:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
Convertibles need a roll bar from 10.0 to 13.5. They will probably let you go low 12s though but you never know. ****'s supposed to get tight there.
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I went 11.575 last Nov with no bar.. Out of the 7 runs I did that most of them were 11.6-11.7 lol No one said anything to me. But before I go this year I'll have a bar in there.
In a vert 13.49 or faster requires a bar. And in the car that was posted above it is just a harness bar. You can see that it bolts in (look at the bars right behind the hoop. You'll see a cap bolt)
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04-06-2011, 07:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kat
I went 11.575 last Nov with no bar.. Out of the 7 runs I did that most of them were 11.6-11.7 lol No one said anything to me. But before I go this year I'll have a bar in there.
In a vert 13.49 or faster requires a bar. And in the car that was posted above it is just a harness bar. You can see that it bolts in (look at the bars right behind the hoop. You'll see a cap bolt)
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there are rumors of atco making a crackdown on tech this year
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04-06-2011, 08:15 PM
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i thought it was lowered to 11.99?.. cuz theyre are plenty of cars that come close to or beating 12.0 stock in convertible form
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04-06-2011, 08:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel
i thought it was lowered to 11.99?.. cuz theyre are plenty of cars that come close to or beating 12.0 stock in convertible form
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Cut for 'verts is 13.50 as it was 14.0 just a few years back. Hardtop and T-top cars can go to 11.50 without a bar.
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04-06-2011, 10:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cbrrmike
there are rumors of atco making a crackdown on tech this year
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Confirmed.
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04-07-2011, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel
i thought it was lowered to 11.99?.. cuz theyre are plenty of cars that come close to or beating 12.0 stock in convertible form
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As it was explained to me a couple years ago (could have changed), once the car was modified, it fell into NHRA rules. I had this argument in the tower at Etown and this is what they told me. Didn't care enough to argue and Atco didn't give me a problem.
The car will have a 6 pt this year anyway so that is one issue I won't have to worry about.
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04-07-2011, 01:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
As it was explained to me a couple years ago (could have changed), once the car was modified, it fell into NHRA rules.
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This is true. Once you change so much as an air filter, if they catch you, you need a cage. Same goes for cars like Z06s that can go faster than 11.49 in hardtop form from the factory.
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04-12-2011, 06:05 PM
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Sliderule / Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WayFast84
Are swingout's legal? I really don't want to climb over door bars in a dd but the idea of a vert is growing on me..
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Swing out are legal and basically can be removed when street driving. I have an S+W and my swing out bolt in at the pivot. I've seen other ( finish line racing I think made it) where the swing out, lifts off a pivot point making it a breeze to remove: pull the pin, swing it out, lift up = done.
But if a vert, I'd do solid bars to add stiffness.
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