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			yes im thinking that ,,, i to more work to this car, but one the money and two,, not sure if my ideas will work... i want to go with 383 stroker kit and 3:73 gears with 12 bolt  ... i know iknow i need to use strange, but i dont think i want too...  trying to get hopefuly 450 475 hp at the wheels  also was looking at 383 supercharged   its starting to get upsetting cause ... i feel like my car sucks   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				yes im thinking that ,,, i to more work to this car, but one the money and two,, not sure if my ideas will work... i want to go with 383 stroker kit and 3:73 gears with 12 bolt  ... i know iknow i need to use strange, but i dont think i want too...  trying to get hopefuly 450 475 hp at the wheels  also was looking at 383 supercharged   its starting to get upsetting cause ... i feel like my car sucks    
			
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				I can steer you in the right direction for mods to give you the hp you want... you just have to ask, then listen, then follow through. 
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			yea so its back to the drawing board,, i just wish i didnt spend all that money
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Exactly what I was thinking. If they picked the cam and you said that you wanted a "wicked evil street car" then they are pretty dumb. I know that that shop deals mainly with older muscle cars. That means old school mentality. To them that cam probably seems a lot bigger than it really is... 
			
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				yea so its back to the drawing board,, i just wish i didnt spend all that money 
			
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			yea so now im f@#$%ed  cause i spent all that money, and i have to rebuild the thing all over and i dont have the cash so i guess it will sit for awhile
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				yea so now im f@#$%ed  cause i spent all that money, and i have to rebuild the thing all over and i dont have the cash so i guess it will sit for awhile 
			
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				yes im thinking that ,,, i to more work to this car, but one the money and two,, not sure if my ideas will work... i want to go with 383 stroker kit and 3:73 gears with 12 bolt  ... i know iknow i need to use strange, but i dont think i want too...  trying to get hopefuly 450 475 hp at the wheels  also was looking at 383 supercharged   its starting to get upsetting cause ... i feel like my car sucks    
			
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				Thats easy with an m6.. Id go 11.5 to 1 comp  , 248/248 cam around 630 lift , with a good set of heads should be low 500s , Should be 470ish with an auto 
			
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stock block/pistons w/what I suggested will give you what your looking for. 
 
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stock block/pistons w/what I suggested will give you what your looking for. 
 
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				475rwhp threw an auto on stock ci will not be very well street mannered. You can build a 408 and make 500rwhp and still drive very well. Stock CI has its limitations. 
			
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				Not that true. Kirk puts down almost 460 thru his stalled auto on a stock bottom end, runs 10s, and drives the car on the street no problem... 
 
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 ^^^^I agree^^^^
 
also proven 525hp+ @ flywheel (roughly 430-440rwhp) using TFS heads/cam combo which has decent street manners with it tuned properly.
 
I've also put down 442rwhp with cnc'd heads w/ms3 cam 3800 stall/12bolt and I drove it everywhere without any serious drivability issues.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Since this turned to motor talk how much power can the stock crank take? I want to build a shortblock using an iron block, I plan on 440ish n/a and spray a 200 shot if I go this route.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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