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			Ah if they made the 140 Rear/midmount and RWD, ahhh   
 But as is i would drive it, and i prefer my RWD vehicles.
 
I too love the idea of the 130R, More to work on, but i like the direction. 
 
I also read that they asked younger people what they wanted, which said a modern muscle, with functionality blah blah, hence the fender flares and long hood. about how tall is the 130R? comparable to a 4th gen?
		
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					Originally Posted by Anti_Rice_Guy  What "young person" says they want an "upright car". I've never even heard a car guy talk in design speak like that. |  They didn't say "upright" car...use your brain.  They look at cars like the 1 series.  Most RWD coupes are tough to look out of, so they wanted something that was a bit more functional, hence the tall and more open greenhouse.  
First people say Camaro is too tough to look out of, but realize that if Camaro team listened to people like that, the 5th gen could  have been similar to this.    
 
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					Originally Posted by WiMiMc  Ah if they made the 140 Rear/midmount and RWD, ahhh   
 But as is i would drive it, and i prefer my RWD vehicles.
 
I too love the idea of the 130R, More to work on, but i like the direction. 
 
I also read that they asked younger people what they wanted, which said a modern muscle, with functionality blah blah, hence the fender flares and long hood. about how tall is the 130R? comparable to a 4th gen? |  54.7 inches.  4th gen is 51.2 inches.
		 
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					Originally Posted by BonzoHansen  it seems cars designed for young people often backfire. iirc the average element owner is like 55 years old.  i know there are some other examples but I can't think of them right now.  and scion sales are in the tank. |  Elements are actually pretty cool cars. If they were maybe a little taller and a little less ugly, I'd be into it. Nothing like hosing out your interior and nothing happening    |  
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			Am i just connecting imaginary dots or could 130R be the basis of the new Camaro?
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 Starting under $25,000
 Is apparently a little taller than 4th gens
 Appears to be MUCH lighter which was one of the biggest concerns with the new Camaro (as well as blind spots)
 
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					Originally Posted by WiMiMc  Am i just connecting imaginary dots or could 130R be the basis of the new Camaro?
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 Is apparently a little taller than 4th gens
 Appears to be MUCH lighter which was one of the biggest concerns with the new Camaro (as well as blind spots)
 |  The Code 130R is about a foot off what the 6th gen will be, and maybe another half-foot wider.  Height is similar.
 
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			Considering them saying the ATS @ ~3,400 lbs, any lukewarm ballpark ideas of what the Code130R or 6th gen Camaro will weigh in at?
		 
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			There was no weight listed for the 130R, but much smaller engine, smaller overall dimensions, I would venture that a car, in production trim, could be anywhere from 2900-3100lbs.   
 Turbo 4 6th gen Camaro will probably be around 3400lbs with V6 at 3500 and V8 3600lbs.
 
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					Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28  There was no weight listed for the 130R, but much smaller engine, smaller overall dimensions, I would venture that a car, in production trim, could be anywhere from 2900-3100lbs.   
 Turbo 4 6th gen Camaro will probably be around 3400lbs with V6 at 3500 and V8 3600lbs.
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			They be 4th gen weights, how did they make a barge weigh that little? Do the bilge pumps and oars come optional now?
		 
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					Originally Posted by WiMiMc  Ah if they made the 140 Rear/midmount and RWD, ahhh   |  New Pontiac Fiero?
 
I can't see it being cost effective to come out with anther mid-ship engined car anytime soon. I still dream of owning a 1988 Fiero GT.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Blacdout96  New Pontiac Fiero?
 I can't see it being cost effective to come out with anther mid-ship engined car anytime soon. I still dream of owning a 1988 Fiero GT.
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					Originally Posted by WiMiMc   That and the 1990 Fiero GT prototype |  Shame that never became a reality, but it still would of been watered down in production, can't have it beating the Corvette flagship, for a portion of the price.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Blacdout96  Shame that never became a reality, but it still would of been watered down in production, can't have it beating the Corvette flagship, for a portion of the price. |  I know, though if i'm not mistaken, they got some inspiration for the 4th gens from the GT prototype
		 
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					Originally Posted by WayFast84  Will there be an n/a v6 option for cost purpose? |  
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					Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28  There was no weight listed for the 130R, but much smaller engine, smaller overall dimensions, I would venture that a car, in production trim, could be anywhere from 2900-3100lbs.   
 Turbo 4 6th gen Camaro will probably be around 3400lbs with V6 at 3500 and V8 3600lbs.
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					Originally Posted by LTs1ow  They be 4th gen weights, how did they make a barge weigh that little? Do the bilge pumps and oars come optional now? |  Wow, you should work for GMI since you have seen the 6th gen Camaro and know that it will be a barge, but only in physical dimensions, and not in actual weight.  Please, do tell us more!
		 
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