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			I'm going to agree with you. 
Considering the price and the fact that bolt-ons would get you close in terms of speed (not power since the 6th gen is heavy) with a Stingray.
 
Sure you would lose the back seats - not an issue for most buyers.
 
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				True to a point but the 6thgen is a lot more refined, it might sway some people. 
 
However I wasn't really speaking about consumers cross shopping, more along the lines of bang for the buck and overall performance. 
			
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				You have my interests peaked, I'm considering NYIAS to check it out along with some of the euro offerings. Dat press pass    
			
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 I love my 5thgen, the small mods done to it performance wise, the cosmetic stuff done to it...it's right where I want it to be.  However the 6thgen is a completely different car.  It's lighter, more nimble, more refined...the looks are just subjective.
 
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				I love my 5thgen, the small mods done to it performance wise, the cosmetic stuff done to it...it's right where I want it to be.  However the 6thgen is a completely different car.  It's lighter, more nimble, more refined...the looks are just subjective. 
			
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So far my customers like them, had 2 customers ditch their Mustangs for them.  I hate the auto industry but at least there are some cool perks of working in the service department, I get to drive everything.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				You local Chevy dealer...make sure you get the NPP exhaust and Magnetic Ride Control...skip the 6 piston caliper upgrade lol 
So far my customers like them, had 2 customers ditch their Mustangs for them. I hate the auto industry but at least there are some cool perks of  working in the service department, I get to drive everything.   
			
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				other then that, it sucks.  
 
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 lol, I rarely get that chance since I'm a service advisor.  On the off chance I do drive a customer's car I don't mess around.  If it's our car, well...then it's our car lol.  I don't like driving customer's cars, too much liability but I will if they ask me to, especially my Camaro and Corvette customes.  I had a customer with a 2012 C6 with an Eforce supercharger on it, had a rattle on the driver's side, insisted I drive it....who am I to deny a customer's request?     
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			The zl1 is really nice.   
 
I also checked out and sat in a regular 2016 Camaro. I had been considering getting one when my 2014 lease is up in February.  However there is even less room in the back seat and not even one babyseat would fit nevertheless two. So that option is out. 
 
I also checked out the ats-v. They had a sedan and coupe. The sedan would fit two babyseats. But stars at 65k. **Sigh** 
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			Yes. The interior feels like a completely different car compared to my '14.  
 
 I didn't consider the visibility much since i was so disappointed by the lack of space in the back but nothing stood out compared to my car. Side doors and windows seemed similar and windshield was close to the same low line. I did notice the back window seemed small though. Hard to tell real visibility with people standing all around the car.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			6th gen felt the same as a 5th gen, only with a smaller back seat, but I feel that due to the smaller size, I know where the ends of the car are better than the 5th gen.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I watched the video earlier and it's unbelievable that they didn't make one mention about the difference in tires. The M4 has Michelin Pilot Super Sports and the Camaro has runflats. I know they wanted to show how similar the numbers are, but they should have at least pointed out that with if the M4 didn't have such expensive, sticky tires, the match wouldn't have been so close.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I hope they keep dragging that roofline back into a hatch for the next generation model. They're getting there with the styling but still too much 5th gen look in the front end. They cleaned up the back end to the point that I actually like the rear view now....but that front needs work.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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