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09-01-2016, 12:02 PM
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Location: Piscataway, N.J.
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1991 Formula Damage Photos/ Make me SICK!
Here are the pictures I NEVER hoped to see  . Lots of small items I may be able to get off and IF somebody is interested in buying it back from me (once I get a figure) let me know.
More pictures of the DAMAGE in the next thread!
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1991 FORMULA 350-GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
1 of 1,197 with L98 Option/13.79@100 mph
1994 25th ANNIVERSARY TRANS AM GT -1 of ONLY 2,000 made/ Only 128 made with a HURST 6-Speed Manual and 91 with T-Tops and Compact Disc/ K & N Filtercharger/Magnaflow Performance Muffler/Air Foil- ORIGINAL MINT Arctic White Ultra Rare SURVIVOR. DAYTONA 500 PACE CAR Decal Kit!
SOLD: 1989 Turbo T/A in 1991 it ran 12:18@115 mph
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09-01-2016, 12:10 PM
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More 1991 Formula Damage!
More photos, there is an awesome amount of tiems that could really benefit somebody here i.e., MINT Interior and door panels-SLP parts-3:73 rear-L98-700R4-Trans Am wheels-1LE driveshaft-BORLA-Edlebrock LCA/ Panhard bar-Hotchkis STB and MUCH more. All of this stuff, is in LIKE NEW CONDITION! 
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1991 FORMULA 350-GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
1 of 1,197 with L98 Option/13.79@100 mph
1994 25th ANNIVERSARY TRANS AM GT -1 of ONLY 2,000 made/ Only 128 made with a HURST 6-Speed Manual and 91 with T-Tops and Compact Disc/ K & N Filtercharger/Magnaflow Performance Muffler/Air Foil- ORIGINAL MINT Arctic White Ultra Rare SURVIVOR. DAYTONA 500 PACE CAR Decal Kit!
SOLD: 1989 Turbo T/A in 1991 it ran 12:18@115 mph
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09-01-2016, 01:30 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Did they total it out? It really blows to see the car like that but honestly I expected worse.
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09-01-2016, 01:41 PM
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That isn't as bad as I was expecting. Definitely repairable.
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92 Firebird (First Car  SOLD 2/18/17)
90 Firebird Formula 305 T5 Daily Driver (SOLD)
87 GTA Gunmetal RIP 
1984 Trans Am 6.0 4L60E , Ford 8.8 3.55 gears
1991 Trans Am
1985 Iroc Z
2015 Silverado 2500HD
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09-01-2016, 03:39 PM
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yea, honestly not that bad
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09-01-2016, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Ed-
Did they total it out? It really blows to see the car like that but honestly I expected worse.
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I got the Insurance agent to meet up with my body shop guy and I'am now waiting to see what the out come is. The rear 1/4 is really pushed in at the bottom and also at the top end. It is worse than it looks. It needs a rear 1/4 which is going to require a donor car. Both front and rear bumpers are gone and repairing RUBBER used parts car had small dents which will not show up until gloss paint is applied. The front bumper is pushed in and bent down, so who knows what is damaged under it. The part that sucks, is that NOBODY i.e., such as Classic Industries-Yearbook One etc., makes reproduction parts for the 1991-92 Firebird because it was a limited mod just for those 2 years. The OEM is LONG gone, so that leaves me with no way to get QUALITY parts and I would not want to have to track down a donor car and go thru that PIA . So the bottom line is, IF it is totaled (my body shop feels it is) then I would like to see what my buy back is and offer it (as a total car) to anyone who wants it for the quality like parts that this car has to offer. I will NOT piece it out, it's ALL or nothing.
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1991 FORMULA 350-GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
1 of 1,197 with L98 Option/13.79@100 mph
1994 25th ANNIVERSARY TRANS AM GT -1 of ONLY 2,000 made/ Only 128 made with a HURST 6-Speed Manual and 91 with T-Tops and Compact Disc/ K & N Filtercharger/Magnaflow Performance Muffler/Air Foil- ORIGINAL MINT Arctic White Ultra Rare SURVIVOR. DAYTONA 500 PACE CAR Decal Kit!
SOLD: 1989 Turbo T/A in 1991 it ran 12:18@115 mph
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09-01-2016, 04:18 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Originally Posted by edpontiac91
I got the Insurance agent to meet up with my body shop guy and I'am now waiting to see what the out come is. The rear 1/4 is really pushed in at the bottom and also at the top end. It is worse than it looks. It needs a rear 1/4 which is going to require a donor car. Both front and rear bumpers are gone and repairing RUBBER used parts car had small dents which will not show up until gloss paint is applied. The front bumper is pushed in and bent down, so who knows what is damaged under it. The part that sucks, is that NOBODY i.e., such as Classic Industries-Yearbook One etc., makes reproduction parts for the 1991-92 Firebird because it was a limited mod just for those 2 years. The OEM is LONG gone, so that leaves me with no way to get QUALITY parts and I would not want to have to track down a donor car and go thru that PIA . So the bottom line is, IF it is totaled (my body shop feels it is) then I would like to see what my buy back is and offer it (as a total car) to anyone who wants it for the quality like parts that this car has to offer. I will NOT piece it out, it's ALL or nothing. |
That's probably the best way to do it. I'm sure there are plenty of people who could repair it and be really happy with the result. But they would have to not care about used/repro stuff.
Goodmark appears to make a quarter:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/g...model/firebird
But who knows what the fit is like, and I can't tell if it covers the repair area.
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09-01-2016, 06:01 PM
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I bet the rear frame rails are bent. They dont take hits well.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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09-01-2016, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
I bet the rear frame rails are bent. They dont take hits well.
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The car still drives straight and I had a set of ALSTON SFC on it. I would have fixed this in a heartbeat IF the rear 1/4 could have been saved. So much work involved in getting it back to looking as good as it did BEFORE accident  . Being ANAL doesn't help when OEM parts do not exist and reproduction parts are also NOT MADE, because this was an only 2 year (1991-92) design.
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1991 FORMULA 350-GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
1 of 1,197 with L98 Option/13.79@100 mph
1994 25th ANNIVERSARY TRANS AM GT -1 of ONLY 2,000 made/ Only 128 made with a HURST 6-Speed Manual and 91 with T-Tops and Compact Disc/ K & N Filtercharger/Magnaflow Performance Muffler/Air Foil- ORIGINAL MINT Arctic White Ultra Rare SURVIVOR. DAYTONA 500 PACE CAR Decal Kit!
SOLD: 1989 Turbo T/A in 1991 it ran 12:18@115 mph
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09-01-2016, 06:38 PM
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I be there is nos stuff out there. i see NOS first and second gen stuff all the time
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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09-01-2016, 06:57 PM
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I be there is nos stuff out there. i see NOS first and second gen stuff all the time
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Thanks for the tip, just checked it out and NADA (nothing).
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1991 FORMULA 350-GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
1 of 1,197 with L98 Option/13.79@100 mph
1994 25th ANNIVERSARY TRANS AM GT -1 of ONLY 2,000 made/ Only 128 made with a HURST 6-Speed Manual and 91 with T-Tops and Compact Disc/ K & N Filtercharger/Magnaflow Performance Muffler/Air Foil- ORIGINAL MINT Arctic White Ultra Rare SURVIVOR. DAYTONA 500 PACE CAR Decal Kit!
SOLD: 1989 Turbo T/A in 1991 it ran 12:18@115 mph
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09-01-2016, 07:42 PM
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what did you check out? To find NOS stuff you need to prowl forums, CL nationwide, ebay, etc.
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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09-01-2016, 07:44 PM
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Let me know the buy back please, would make a fun winter project
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09-01-2016, 07:46 PM
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Let me know the buy back please, would make a fun winter project
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...and here is why your cars aren't done lol
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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09-01-2016, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
...and here is why your cars aren't done lol
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I have an addiction.... lol (Plus tons of spare parts I can put to use)
Last edited by V; 09-01-2016 at 07:52 PM.
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09-01-2016, 10:34 PM
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There is nothing wrong with used oem parts. you can easily find a rust free qtr panel. They are out there. The nose is easy to fine as well. I understand how you feel but its the body shops job to make it look like it never happened.
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92 Firebird (First Car SOLD 2/18/17)
90 Firebird Formula 305 T5 Daily Driver (SOLD)
87 GTA Gunmetal RIP
1984 Trans Am 6.0 4L60E , Ford 8.8 3.55 gears
1991 Trans Am
1985 Iroc Z
2015 Silverado 2500HD
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09-01-2016, 11:28 PM
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Reminds me of my split bumper. the crashed part
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In all honesty, unless you have some weird addiction to your motor, go LSX. It will be cheaper, easier, and actually be able to be tuned.
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09-02-2016, 06:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by V
Let me know the buy back please, would make a fun winter project
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And if he is selling at the buy back price. I can't tell, it reads either way 
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09-02-2016, 08:59 AM
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Just food for thought, lets say they total it and give you a good buy back price...why not just fix it?
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2018 Camaro 2SS Redline package, ESC Novi 1500 tuned by EFX, Might Mouse wild catch can, GM STB, smoked ZL1 3rd brake light, Xpel XR Black 35% tint all around, Street Scene front splitter, C7 Carbon ZL1 side skirts, Drake Muscle Car Wickerbill spoiler
2010 Infiniti G37x-Moonlight White w/Graphite interior. Stock...for now. Xpel XR Black tint(hey it's a mod lol)
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09-02-2016, 09:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty
Just food for thought, lets say they total it and give you a good buy back price...why not just fix it?
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likely salvage title would be my first problem.
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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09-02-2016, 09:34 AM
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likely salvage title would be my first problem.
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Why? Is NJ difficult to deal with that stuff?
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2018 Camaro 2SS Redline package, ESC Novi 1500 tuned by EFX, Might Mouse wild catch can, GM STB, smoked ZL1 3rd brake light, Xpel XR Black 35% tint all around, Street Scene front splitter, C7 Carbon ZL1 side skirts, Drake Muscle Car Wickerbill spoiler
2010 Infiniti G37x-Moonlight White w/Graphite interior. Stock...for now. Xpel XR Black tint(hey it's a mod lol)
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09-02-2016, 12:16 PM
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Very
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So much stupid, so little time.
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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Mercerville MotorSports, LLC
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09-02-2016, 12:31 PM
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I was chatting with an adjuster and he does it on the side for fun. It really just kills residual value but its not that big of a deal to go through the salvage process so long as you cross your t's, dot your i's, and maintain records. No first hand experience though.
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09-02-2016, 12:48 PM
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Arggg, 
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1991 FORMULA 350-GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
1 of 1,197 with L98 Option/13.79@100 mph
1994 25th ANNIVERSARY TRANS AM GT -1 of ONLY 2,000 made/ Only 128 made with a HURST 6-Speed Manual and 91 with T-Tops and Compact Disc/ K & N Filtercharger/Magnaflow Performance Muffler/Air Foil- ORIGINAL MINT Arctic White Ultra Rare SURVIVOR. DAYTONA 500 PACE CAR Decal Kit!
SOLD: 1989 Turbo T/A in 1991 it ran 12:18@115 mph
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09-02-2016, 12:59 PM
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wow ed im sorry to hear about your car. sometimes your bad luck saves you from worse luck im happy you and everyone involved is ok. as for the car i really hope you get some good news on it.
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