Your tips on becoming healthy:

[enRo]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

and eating right wont make you run for miles.

not necessarily. the better foods u choose, the lighter u may get, and the easier it is to run. think of it as weight reduction a 175 pound male will run longer in time + distance than a 350 pound fat man. but what do i know, i weigh 155 lbs

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

Bottom lien is, matt, this is what you want to do: lose weight with health as the goal.

WITH THAT SAID, this is what you need to do... cardio, and also go lift but do lots of reps of little weight. Cardio = health, that's all there is to that, but having ginormous arms wont do **** for your health or weight. The other thing you wanna do is condition... do lots of reps of little weight. Before you can build muscle you have to get what you have up to shape. Less weight more reps = get you cut = tone the muscle you have and help shed the fat.

BWHAAHAHHAHAHAHA are you serious? that is like the BIGGEST NEWB MISTAKE IN THE WORLD! high reps wont do **** besides making you tired and make your work out 11ty billion hours. Getting CUT is all about diet, you wanna be cut and have your 8 pack, arm/shoulder definition, strongly defined V-shaped back LOSE WEIGHT! being cut is about LOW BF% not how many reps you can do
I can bench press a bench bar without any weight prolly over 100 times does that mean ill get cut? **** no

bull ****ing ****... in wrestling stamina and endurance is the number one thing, you try going six minutes in a match...

yea thats why the day before the match they put on plastic bags, sweat pants, sweatshirt and go run for as long as they can and then go sit in the sauna...

[BigAls87Z28]

Yes, they do that to cut weight if they are over, but they run all the time for practice because they must be conditioned because if they arent, its game over. I ran from July to December for Football, to make sure I could go 6 quaters without being tired. I also lifted and had a different diet when I played.
Lower weight, not light weight, and high reps tear your muscle differently then massive weight at low reps.

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Lower weight, not light weight, and high reps tear your muscle differently then massive weight at low reps.

still being cut is about low body fat % not how many times u can raise a dumb bell. thats kinda a fact, i didnt make it up i swear...

[BigAls87Z28]

Correct, but you also have to lift in order to be cut.

[WayFast84]

Thanks for all the tip's so far.

I Had a good diet today, and made 35 bucks working my ass off at my neighbors house! I consider this a good start!!

Tomorrow, im gonna mowe the entire lawn(I usually say **** the back..then im gonna lift some weights and go for a bike ride.

Just remember. Im trying to gain stamina, here and become healthier! I could care less how much I way as long as Im considered healthy in many aspects..

Plus im allready ripped

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Correct, but you also have to lift in order to be cut.

not at all. if you have fast metabolism you dont have to lift, you're naturally skinny. you'll be as skinny as a toothpick (noah ) but you'll be cut. It's just your muscles wont "stick out" as much if you dont lift. There're plenty of people out there who have a 6 pack and defined arms and dont jack ****. i believe the body type is called ectomorph, google it if you so desire.

[enRo]

Originally Posted by Tsar

you'll be as skinny as a toothpick (noah ) but you'll be cut.

*edit* cut... in more ways than one

[PBodyGT87]

Originally Posted by HardcoreZ28

And sorry to call you out on this one Liz but Soy Protein should be a no-no for guys.

I didn't tell him he needed soy, That's why I told him whey protein was what he needed, ie, don't go for soy.

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by PBodyGT87

whey protein

good ****, i used to eat that non stop

BTW IsoPure > all

[r0nin89]

Just shoot up heroin already! **** weights!

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by Tsar

BTW IsoPure > all

If they can make that stuff taste better then I'd go for it. Otherwise I'll stick to my ON stuff.


It looks like 90% of what I would say has been said already. Squats FTW, Soy protien FTL and make it your lifestyle, not a temporary deal.

Wayfast, if you are overweight (as in fat) you are probably an Endomorphic body type. In my opinion you should start cleaning up your diet immediately and start cardio training first (preferably hard cycling to minimize the stress on your knees) and go to weight training second. While it's true that extra muscle = extra calories burned at rest and that you can drop weight via lifting, you are much more likely to burn off fat by working for 45-60 minutes in your target heart rate zone then you are doing the same in a gym session.

Cardio burns mostly fat in that zone while glycogen is what is spent lifting weights. That's NOT to say that you can't burn fat off lifting, but if aren't used to working out with weights that hard then chances are you won't be able to do that right away.

Once you hack off some unwanted body fat then hit the weights.

One final thing: What works for me (or others) may very well not work for you. You will have to find out what works for YOUR BODY.

[97slpss]

i agree with tsar ...gotta cut the bf% with diet and cardio...still should be training with like 3 sets of 12..its all about the diet, right now im bulking..eating 5500 calories but still doing same reps

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

If they can make that stuff taste better then I'd go for it. Otherwise I'll stick to my ON stuff.

from what i remember it tasted about the same, but i havent used any supplements in months so i kinda forget. All i remember that it wasnt bad

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by Tsar

from what i remember it tasted about the same, but i havent used any supplements in months so i kinda forget. All i remember that it wasnt bad

Huh. I got a free sample of the chocolate flavor from them and it was pretty rough... although it was definetly not the worst.

[BigAls87Z28]

I cant stand any sort of Strawberry tasting mix. They must use the ass of the strawberry to make that ****.

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by Tsar

yea thats why the day before the match they put on plastic bags, sweat pants, sweatshirt and go run for as long as they can and then go sit in the sauna...

1) I never sa in any sauna... unless you call 3 hours a day of practice, working every muscle in your body constantly in a 100+ degree practice room a sauna.

You're talking the day before a match, but wrestlers run EVERY day not just the day before a match, and it's for stamina and endurance. But what would I know, I only did it for 4 years

[JL8Jeff]

The problem with lifting weights is that you are tearing mucle and stretching it to build it up. As soon as you stop lifting, those muscles will start droop. Look at any former weight lifter or body builder. The Terminator is downright scary looking now. But he's looking to stay healthy, not turn into The Rock! If your goal is to stay healthy to avoid a heart attack then doing some moderate weights a couple times a week will help but it's mainly cardio type activities and proper eating that will keep you healthy. The word supersize should never be part of your vocabulary!

[HardcoreZ28]

Originally Posted by PBodyGT87

I didn't tell him he needed soy, That's why I told him whey protein was what he needed, ie, don't go for soy.

Ahhhhh...my bad.


And Bill is totally right....what works for a particular person may not work for the next. You need to experiment with different strategies and find out what works best for your body. I've been working out for 12 years and am still fine tuning my routines for what my body wants.

And don't even get me started on the wrestling thing. I wrestled for 9 years and in high school I'd cut 30lbs each season. That's a big part of why I do as little cardio as possible now...I hate running. Yes it's for cutting weight but the endurance aspect is the main reason for doing it.

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by HardcoreZ28

That's a big part of why I do as little cardio as possible now...I hate running.

ahhhh ok, it's not just me

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

ahhhh ok, it's not just me

Nope, not just you

[WayFast84]

wow tons of responses, Im dead serious about this,

in gym today I ran a mile when I didnt have to.

the plan was to walk curves run straights I did run one lap walk curves then run straits then run full lap again and so on and so on.

I ate a salad in luch instead of pizza, and I have to say It was up their in the best lunches Ive ever had at that school!!

Well Im goin to mow the lawn then for a bike ride!

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by WayFast84

wow tons of responses, Im dead serious about this,

in gym today I ran a mile when I didnt have to.

the plan was to walk curves run straights I did run one lap walk curves then run straits then run full lap again and so on and so on.

I ate a salad in luch instead of pizza, and I have to say It was up their in the best lunches Ive ever had at that school!!

Well Im goin to mow the lawn then for a bike ride!

Good for you!

One other note- Rome wasn't built in a day. Progression will take time, you just have to stick with it and it will start to show.

[HardcoreZ28]

One tip for you.....ease into this.....if you overdo it now you'll burn yourself out early. If you're going to make it a part of your lifestyle, do just that. Make it a part and don't become completely fanatical about it. Reminds me of all the people that make it their New Years resolution to get in shape and clog the gym for the first month or two of the year and then never show up again.

Edit: Go out and spend the money on the Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding written by Arnold. If you're serious about working out and especially if you plan on lifting weights, it's pretty much the bible.

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by HardcoreZ28

Edit: Go out and spend the money on the Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding written by Arnold. If you're serious about working out and especially if you plan on lifting weights, it's pretty much the bible.

This is a great book. Pretty much a must have, you can get it for around $20 for the soft cover version.