572ci GM crate motor....fuel injection? - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

skorpion317 · 05-19-2005, 11:15 PM

My mind has been changing more times than i can shake a stick at when it comes to an engine choice for my planned project Camaro. I originally wanted a 427 C5R motor in it, then a step down to a 402, then another step down to a 383. I've decided to throw all caution to the winds. I want to top Jon Moss' ZL1 Camaro.

call me crazy (you know you want to). I want the 572ci GM Performance Parts crate motor for the thing - the race version. 720 HP.

i know the Moss ZL1 had a 572 (which was later swapped for a Donovan block, with somewhere around 582 or more cubes) which put out 770 HP. I'm not worried about power output with this engine. I want to get it somewhere around 900 or so HP, enough to push me into the eights (the ZL1 ran a best of 9.55). and that's 900 on the motor, before the planned nitrous shot.

now, here comes the really crazy stuff. The ZL1 was fuel-injected. I plan on my 572 going the same route. I also want it to have a couple separate fuel maps so that I can run it on pump gas when i feel like having a little more control on the street, and switch over to race gas for the track.

Are there any resources i can find about swapping a fuel-injection system onto the 572? does anybody know off the top of their heads what systems would even work with that monster?

IROCdan330 · 05-20-2005, 06:30 AM

isnt there a ram jet 572? or is that only the 502...

i'm sure the 502s system would bolt right up.

SteveR · 05-20-2005, 08:24 AM

What kind of money are you looking to spend? If you want a realiable, consistant 8 second motor, call up Henry Jackson and compare prices. He priced me out a 615 big chief 14 degree head full roller 950HP quick 8 motor for around 17k.

NJSPEEDER · 05-20-2005, 10:41 PM

bamman builds good motors too. he actually used to work for henry from what i understand, i know bobby's prices are lower than henry's.
then there is always scott schafiroff's stuff to consider

it really depends if you want a pump gas motor or an all out race engine. for a pump gas engine i would talk to shafiroff. they build some nice stuff.

later
tim

heavy_chevy29 · 05-22-2005, 02:06 PM

i would highly reccommend scott schafiroff. he builds a hell of a motor. i love my 434. that doesn't quite put down the numbers your looking for but im sure that it you gave him a call they would be more than happy to build the motor that you want.

NJSPEEDER · 05-22-2005, 04:04 PM

i agree, scott does great work. he does cost as much or more than the bamman/jackson's of teh world, but it is worth every penny.
there is a guy who lives a few blocks from me who bracket races at least 2 nights a week. he uses shafiroff motors and only has to freshen them every other season. any small block that can twist 7K or more and live that long impresses me.

later
tim

HardcoreZ28 · 05-23-2005, 08:48 AM

Scoggin Dickey is putting fuel injection setups on the 572 crate engines. I forget the power output, but 790 seems to stand out in my mind. Add a 150 of N2O and you're at your 900 mark and then some.

skorpion317 · 05-23-2005, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HardcoreZ28

Scoggin Dickey is putting fuel injection setups on the 572 crate engines. I forget the power output, but 790 seems to stand out in my mind. Add a 150 of N2O and you're at your 900 mark and then some.

thanks for the tip! i found This on S-D's website. It will do the job perfectly.

I may be a little too obsessive...i need more power on the motor than the ZL1. I'll have to find out what else I can do to this thing to get it over 770 HP.

j0n · 05-23-2005, 03:34 PM

tuning

GP99GT · 05-23-2005, 05:14 PM

as i told you on aim, forced induction would be much better than making power all motor...a twin turbo setup on a built 454 or something would be insane, and make crazy torque. all motor has its limits, and it gets too expensive in the long run.

NJSPEEDER · 05-23-2005, 06:04 PM

770hp definately does nto require huge cubes.
look at the cartek prepped vette that put out like 1200hp on a 346cid twin turbo motor.
boost on a factory computer controlled engine would be a great way to make all that power without carrying around all teh excess weight of a mega cube iron block motor.

later
tim

skorpion317 · 05-23-2005, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

770hp definately does nto require huge cubes.
look at the cartek prepped vette that put out like 1200hp on a 346cid twin turbo motor.
boost on a factory computer controlled engine would be a great way to make all that power without carrying around all teh excess weight of a mega cube iron block motor.

later
tim

this isn't about what's easier or less expensive, it's about having a big ******' engine that makes an assload of power. i don't want forced induction.

skorpion317 · 05-25-2005, 11:53 PM

i also need to figure out exhaust manifolds....i emailed GMPP about it tonite, should have an answer sometime tomorrow.

badzracing · 06-09-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by skorpion317

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

770hp definately does nto require huge cubes.
look at the cartek prepped vette that put out like 1200hp on a 346cid twin turbo motor.
boost on a factory computer controlled engine would be a great way to make all that power without carrying around all teh excess weight of a mega cube iron block motor.

later
tim

this isn't about what's easier or less expensive, it's about having a big ******' engine that makes an assload of power. i don't want forced induction.

Forced induction = more cubes. T/F cars only run 500 c.i. engines.....that giant blower helps a lot with making 8000 horsies.