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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
The sheer size of the wheels & brakes are too much unsprung weight. I do not think it is odd that the v6 cars are said to handle better and do better on the skid pad. Al, will the 18s fit over the SS brakes?
Car is too tall & too wide. I'm sure there are other points they could have cut weight - like how about manual seat tracks? Power seats are standard all except very base, and even it has power recliners. WTH is with power recliners?
I've been a supporter of this car, excited about its return. That excitement sure has worn off into let down and fail.
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Yes, Im 100% sure they will.
1) The CTS-V had the nearly the same exact set up of brakes, even down to the diamter of teh rotors, and they came with 18's.
2) the current CTS-V has larger rotors, and run on 19's.
3) The Z06 and ZR1 both have larger rotors and calipers, and a 19 inch wheel fits over the massive 15.5 inch rotor and massive 6 pistion caliper on the ZR1.
Too tall and too wide? I will disagree on the dimensions. Camaro is 1 inch wider then a 4th gen, and 2 inches taller, but displaces its weight over a much wider, by over a foot, longer wheel base.
The problem lies in that the Zeta platform, as I stated in the first post, is a Sedan platform.
With the Mustang, its a chassis designed to be a sports car. The Zeta chassis was designed to build performance sedans and coupes, but different then the Camaro. More like the GTO in being a more upright kind of coupe, a two door sedan if you will.
Camaro's problem isnt weight so much. Again, as I pointed out in another thread, the M3 is 10 inches shorter, much narrower, and lower, yet only comes in 100lbs lighter then the Camaro SS. Thats 150lbs heavier then a Mustang. M3 uses a lot of aluminum and has a carbon fiber roof.
Camaro's problem is where the weight is. Its up higher, thanks to a sedan chassis that placed the belt line so high, therefor putting the mass of the car above the center line of the vehicle.
Even if you cut off another 100lbs to match the M3, it wouldnt handle like an M3.
But no matter, the Camaro is still a stellar performer. Nasty just cant get over it, but the car is a solid home run.
Could some things be better? Sure. I could make a post going over every single detail, and make the car better. It wont change anyones mind here.
But is it the best car in its class? By a challeng...i mean a boat length.
Removing things like power windows, door locks and seats are stupid. The motors are so light, and the systems are programed way long in advance that it would cost GM more, and for very little weight loss. I would them rather spend the money on coming up with a better dash, a track-package, or aluminum body pannels.
Not to mention power things are now a must. While some of you more basic people might not understand the concept, someone spending north of 25k for a 21st century muscle/sports car gets in it and some how it has manual seats when a 17k Cobalt has 6 way power....it looks bad.
This isnt the 60's.
As for that picture with the wheel weights, the wheel shoudl ahve been scraped, and it most likely will. Any wheel that out of balance should be taken off and replaced with a new one.
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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
from the placement of those wheels you can bet thats not a STATIC balance either. theres more weights on the inner lip of that wheel too im willing to bet.
this whole car is ftl. i said it before and ill say it again. the Nue-Gen Camaro is ftl.
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You are such an ass Nasty. Camaro is the best car in its class, performance, ride, handling and style. Dont be upset that your beloved 4th gen is now a step down on the GM food chain. LT1's have felt it, TPI cars felt it, BBC's felt it, and Blue Flames felt it...its just better.
