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10-08-2010, 09:30 PM
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1969 Camaro 'Red Devil'
Some cool pics of Mark Stielow's latest build 'red devil'. Every car he builds is awesome in terms of build quality and performance (all his cars get driven hard), and he takes function over form to an art form. When we saw the yellow LS9 powered 69 (nicknamed jackass, a lol-nod at 'the mule') last year we were blown away at the build quality and the way it all looked so simple, OE and unassuming.
Thomson Automotive built 427 CID LS9 based engine
D&D Performace T-56 six speed
Currie Ford 9" with 3.25 gears
Full Detroit Speed front sub-frame and quadra link rear suspension
Brembo brakes from a Z06 application
C-6 Corvette ABS system
18X10 Forgeline wheels with BFG 275/30R18 KDW tires
18X12.5 Forgeline whhels with BFG 335/35R18 KDW tires
VW Salsa Red.
Early Performance #
0-60 mph 3.29 seconds
0-100 mph 7.26 seconds
1/4 mile 11.19 sec. @ 129.84 mph all corrected values
(should go in the 10s next time out)
Braking
best 60-0 107.4' & 2.5 sec
0-60-0 with 1 ft rollout best 6.84 with overshoot to 61mph
40 foot slalom
Slalom best 48.34 mph
Skid pad 1.03 G.
ABS is very impressive and to date not something the DIY guy can do. Being a GM engineer sure helps him get this accomplished. But it is build like this that help get the ball rolling for the rest of us. True retrofit ABS is probably going to appear in the next few years. But this tells you a bit of the difficulties involved. Not mentioned is the reprogramming that you & me can't do.
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The ABS unit is a 2006 Corvette Z06 unit. I used the Z06 unit because it has the right calibration to match the Brembo calipers I'm runninG. Same piston volume as the PBR calibers.
The hardest things I had to were:
Getting passive rear wheel speed sensors in the Ford 9" with the correct number of teeth to get the pulses per rev correct. I ended up using 2004 Mustang wheel speed sensor and 2006 Mustang tone rings. I have a ton of time in making the backing plates to get the wheel speed sensor, park brake and the caliper to all fit up robustly. The front wheel speed sensors are production C-6 Corvette on the DSE front clip.
Building all the brake hardlines. I have about 40 feet of S/S brake line in my car. I purchased a hydraulic flaring tool to get all the flares right. For the inverted flares and the metric flares.
Building the wiring harness so it is not susceptible to EMF or noise. Routing it in the car to keep it away from heat and is durable.
Of the things that I did on the car ABS brakes was the hardest because it was the first time I tried it. I still have a prop valve in the system so if it faults out I will not have too much rear bias.
I got the system to work by tricking it to think it was installed in 2006 Corvette. Due to the fact I have a stock C-6 ECM in the car I hooked the CAN data stream up between the two. The other sensors were faked or installed.
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Good lord
Flat torque curve anyone? Dashed line is the LS9 car from last year.
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After some tweeking RD made 594 ft*lbs at 4200 torque and 569 HP at 6300 to the rear tire. Compared to Jackass last year 460 ft*lbs at 4400 RPM and 498 HP at 6400. All dyno pulls were done with the coolant temperature at 220 F to simulate track usage
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On the engine dyno before good tuning it made 800+ ft*lbs of torque through stock LS9 headers
Like that little touch? LOL
I love looking at cool builds like this. Although I could never afford or honestly even know how to do some of this stuff, there are so many cool little details you can pick up for your own car. Or learn how to do something in a way you hadn't thought of. that was one of the best parts of SEMA last year, seeing all these cars up close & personal. Besides if looking at cars like this doesn't interest you then you need to question your 'car guy' credentials.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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10-09-2010, 08:18 AM
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pretty sweet build. i bet dialing in that abs was a nightmare.
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10-09-2010, 11:00 AM
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sweet jesus
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10-09-2010, 11:28 AM
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I wasn't aware they allowed porn on this site.... in seriousness though that thing is mini tubbed right? to fit those meats under there...
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10-09-2010, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by transmaro93
I wasn't aware they allowed porn on this site.... in seriousness though that thing is mini tubbed right? to fit those meats under there...
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yes, DSE mini tubs
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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10-09-2010, 02:46 PM
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12 Second Club
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10-09-2010, 05:55 PM
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saweet!!
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10-11-2010, 12:22 PM
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amazing
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1995 Pontiac Firebird - V6 few mods
1988 Mustang - supercharged, heads/cam etc...
2012 Mustang - 5.0 6spd / 437rwhp 420trq
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Verts are gay and stalkers ride in them.
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10-11-2010, 07:14 PM
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Wait wait wait UGH
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94 2wd SBSC Gmt400. 330CI LSX, Fast 102, Trickflow 205s, close ratio nv3500, 4.30/trutrac.
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10-11-2010, 07:46 PM
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that ls9 looks small... lol def one bad ass ride
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
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10-12-2010, 12:31 AM
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wow that's sooo sick
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10-17-2010, 10:05 PM
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10-18-2010, 01:50 PM
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awesomeness
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2010 F-150
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11-05-2010, 10:07 PM
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Soon you'll be able to drive it!
http://www.gtplanet.net/1969-chevrol...010-gt-awards/
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Each year, the Gran Turismo Awards offer SEMA show exhibitors the opportunity to join the ranks of the famed Gran Turismo® racing franchise – one of the top-selling video game franchises of all time with more than 56 million units shipped worldwide – with a feature spot in a future Gran Turismo title. After reviewing more than 100 entries, the judging panel and Gran Turismo creator Kazunori Yamauchi himself, crowned Best Hot Rod winner,Mark Stielow for his 1969 Chevy Camaro as the 2010 “Best in Show.”
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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11-05-2010, 10:35 PM
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I love that red.
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11-08-2010, 10:53 AM
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That car was FAAAST at Optima this weekend. I think he pulled down the fastest lap time on the road course
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11-08-2010, 11:50 AM
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It won the Optima Challenge as well.
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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11-08-2010, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
It won the Optima Challenge as well.
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We didnt stick around to see who won and I forgot to check today. It sure was a bad ass car out on the track
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11-09-2010, 12:27 AM
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In a recent Camaro Performer mag, it lapped some track in Mich the fastest.
AutoX it didnt fair as well. Such a fantastic car.
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11-09-2010, 08:38 AM
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just another reason why i cant wait for that game. to bad typical polyD fashion they are late with the release and delay after delay awaits us
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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03-02-2012, 03:42 PM
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Admin.
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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03-02-2012, 04:20 PM
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Who the hell took pictures of my car
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03-02-2012, 04:40 PM
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Admin.
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Back tire after optima commercial shoot
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Gotta love those 3rd gear burnouts.
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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03-02-2012, 06:17 PM
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Wow, amazing.....
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