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09-02-2014, 09:59 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Vortec vs HEI Distrubtor
I am in the dark on this subject so bear with me here.
Can I buy a HEI shaft and swap it into a vortec distributor? Obviously would swap the reluctor over to the new shaft.
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09-02-2014, 10:27 AM
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If it has a distributor you can swap one from a different small block. The manifold height and gear pattern never changed so it is a straight interchange.
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09-02-2014, 10:41 AM
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From my quick searchs, GM has used three different shaft diameters...
Small HEI is .428
Full size HEI is .490
BBC HEI is .500
I think?
Edit: Goal is to stick something like this http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ms...4550/overview/ in a vortec housing.
Edit #2: Measure vortec shaft, .428 it is.
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Last edited by LTb1ow; 09-02-2014 at 09:22 PM.
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09-03-2014, 10:11 AM
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No one knows small body HEI distributors here?
Figured them and carbs were easy topics
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09-03-2014, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LTb1ow
No one knows small body HEI distributors here?
Figured them and carbs were easy topics
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I don't really have much to offer about this other than to call MSD and see what they can do for you.
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09-03-2014, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
I don't really have much to offer about this other than to call MSD and see what they can do for you.
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Called em and they said they had nothing for me.
Edit: So now, do I buy another assembly (~$125) and hope its fine, or, buy a expensive MSD vortec distributor. OR, buy a cheaper accel unit and cannibalize the shaft out of it.
Decisions.
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Last edited by LTb1ow; 09-03-2014 at 11:12 AM.
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09-03-2014, 12:47 PM
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Dry sump!
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09-03-2014, 12:50 PM
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If all you really need out of it is the shaft why not just hit a junk yard what you need? Dizzy's are like $5 if you leave the cap and rotor behind.
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09-03-2014, 01:00 PM
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I would, if there was a junkyard local to me, or in existence
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09-03-2014, 01:04 PM
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09-03-2014, 09:04 PM
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It is more to get an upgraded shaft out of a MSD/Accel vs stock OE replacement. Assuming there is even a difference in drive shaft.
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09-03-2014, 10:48 PM
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i would not assume anything Accel makes is better than OE.
I might have an old HEI lying around, I'll look over the weekend.
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09-04-2014, 02:30 PM
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i have the old large cap HEI distributor out of my camaro that you can have im in 08850 about 35min from point
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09-04-2014, 02:39 PM
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If you can, measure the drive shaft for me, I think the large cap guys are .500 which doesn't work with the vortec stuff.
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09-04-2014, 02:45 PM
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that is all i'd have, coil in cap stuff.
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Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
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09-04-2014, 03:07 PM
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i would not assume anything Accel makes is better than OE.
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This, X1000.
Distributor has a custom reluctor? Or can you use a MSD small distributor? I'm 90% sure I have a small MSD distributor in my old parts bin.
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09-04-2014, 03:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Bishop
This, X1000.
Distributor has a custom reluctor? Or can you use a MSD small distributor? I'm 90% sure I have a small MSD distributor in my old parts bin.
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Its a vortec 1x signal, three wire input. Its an OE part so nothing fancy.
Let me know what you find if you can look.
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09-04-2014, 05:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow
From my quick searchs, GM has used three different shaft diameters...
Small HEI is .428
Full size HEI is .490
BBC HEI is .500
I think?
Edit: Goal is to stick something like this http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ms...4550/overview/ in a vortec housing.
Edit #2: Measure vortec shaft, .428 it is.
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Any way you can upgrade to a larger shaft for additional strength? Or just trying to avoid buying a new diz?
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09-04-2014, 10:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Any way you can upgrade to a larger shaft for additional strength? Or just trying to avoid buying a new diz?
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I could, but I am sure it would require a few mods to the vortec billet piece to install new, larger bushings etc.
Its not that I can't spring for a new one, its that even a new one will have the same small shaft it would seem.
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09-06-2014, 05:56 PM
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So, anyone have a small or large cap distributor laying around they wanna sell for cheap?
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09-07-2014, 03:47 AM
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Blaceys in wrightstown, maybe a 1/2 hour- 40 mins drive tops from your house. Shoot down 95 to sixflags exit, then take monmouth road down for a bit and its on your left
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