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12-29-2015, 12:57 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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finally got the 9 inch for the 02 ss
So guys I got the 9 inch for the 02 ss from quick performance. I'll post photos of it on my project page soon.
List of options I got are;
New fabricated housing
Internal gusseting
35 spline axles
Back brace
4.11 wave Trac
1/2 wheel studs
Yukon nodular iron center section
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97' Z28, M6 w/ golen engines 396 Lt1, rpm transmission level 6 t56, moser 12 bolt eaton posi w/ 4.11 gears, Hooker super comp long tube headers ory-pipe, slp loudmouth 1 .Full BMR suspension, Bilstein shocks. Torqhead 24x conversion.
02' SS, M6 BMR lowering springs, adj. pan-hard bar, Bilstein shocks. Lt1 front end conversion. Ford 9"
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12-29-2015, 01:07 PM
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why would you go 9" over a 12 bolt? If you don't mind me asking.
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12-29-2015, 03:19 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDSheds_SS
why would you go 9" over a 12 bolt? If you don't mind me asking.
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I went with a 9 inch over a 12 bolt for a few reasons I liked that it practically a quick change rear, I've tossed the idea around of running a spool at the track. I have read and been told that a 12 bolt will fail before a 9 inch will. I have a 12 bolt in my 97 Z that I'm very happy with, I guess I wanted to also try something different.
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97' Z28, M6 w/ golen engines 396 Lt1, rpm transmission level 6 t56, moser 12 bolt eaton posi w/ 4.11 gears, Hooker super comp long tube headers ory-pipe, slp loudmouth 1 .Full BMR suspension, Bilstein shocks. Torqhead 24x conversion.
02' SS, M6 BMR lowering springs, adj. pan-hard bar, Bilstein shocks. Lt1 front end conversion. Ford 9"
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12-29-2015, 03:54 PM
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would like to see pics of the quick housing. i wish i had the money for the wavetrac. hopefully the trac-lok holds good for what i need.
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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12-29-2015, 04:50 PM
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What do you have to do to make the torque arm line up? You need a bracket or do you need a different type of arm?
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99 Z28 Trick Flow 215s milled to 61cc 228/232 Cam Fast 102 built 4l65e trans 4000 converter 12 bolt 410s Electric WP deleted PS/AC Dyno & Track tuned
2015 ATS Coupe. AWD 2.0 Turbo
2012 2500hd Silverado with LTZ 20s on 35x12.5x20
86 Buick GN Lesabre 1 of 117 (4-Sale)
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12-29-2015, 11:00 PM
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02 that isn't a catfish. Badass! Also, are you a 6speed or auto?
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12-30-2015, 09:25 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThoR294
02 that isn't a catfish. Badass! Also, are you a 6speed or auto?
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It's a 6 speed now but I think I may swap it to auto
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97' Z28, M6 w/ golen engines 396 Lt1, rpm transmission level 6 t56, moser 12 bolt eaton posi w/ 4.11 gears, Hooker super comp long tube headers ory-pipe, slp loudmouth 1 .Full BMR suspension, Bilstein shocks. Torqhead 24x conversion.
02' SS, M6 BMR lowering springs, adj. pan-hard bar, Bilstein shocks. Lt1 front end conversion. Ford 9"
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12-30-2015, 09:28 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDSheds_SS
What do you have to do to make the torque arm line up? You need a bracket or do you need a different type of arm?
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Quick performance gave me a bracket that bolts on to the top and bottom of the housing.
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97' Z28, M6 w/ golen engines 396 Lt1, rpm transmission level 6 t56, moser 12 bolt eaton posi w/ 4.11 gears, Hooker super comp long tube headers ory-pipe, slp loudmouth 1 .Full BMR suspension, Bilstein shocks. Torqhead 24x conversion.
02' SS, M6 BMR lowering springs, adj. pan-hard bar, Bilstein shocks. Lt1 front end conversion. Ford 9"
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12-31-2015, 08:48 AM
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Hey man I just did my 9" install, if you need a hand when the time comes let me know, Id be happy to come by.
Couple things I learned:
I had to drill out the holes for the PHB and LCA mounts because they're a too small (it seems to be common so im sure youll have the same deal). Not sure what TQ Arm your gonna run, but I run a BMR tunnel mount arm (which has been a giant pain in the ass) but it has a close setting and a far setting, for where it mounts to that bracket from QP, I had to cut off the far setting so it would clear the bracket and also clear the car.
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01-04-2016, 09:28 PM
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Have that exact same rear. Ressoxsstink save for the wave track you wolnt regret it.
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01-05-2016, 11:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B4C
Have that exact same rear. Ressoxsstink save for the wave track you wolnt regret it.
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too late now, my 9in is in the other thread. i think i will be happy with the trac-lok i dont think i am over powering it.
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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01-06-2016, 12:42 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Just a quick photo I snapped of the front of the housing, I'll snap some of the back and get a few of the wave trac. Once I weld on the rear sway bar mounts and test fit the torque arm, I'll send the housing out to be powder coated hammer tone black. I was also looking at mid west chassis just the other day looks like I'm going to pick up one of their 8 point chrome moly cages.
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97' Z28, M6 w/ golen engines 396 Lt1, rpm transmission level 6 t56, moser 12 bolt eaton posi w/ 4.11 gears, Hooker super comp long tube headers ory-pipe, slp loudmouth 1 .Full BMR suspension, Bilstein shocks. Torqhead 24x conversion.
02' SS, M6 BMR lowering springs, adj. pan-hard bar, Bilstein shocks. Lt1 front end conversion. Ford 9"
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01-06-2016, 08:02 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Just a couple more photos I took of the housing
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97' Z28, M6 w/ golen engines 396 Lt1, rpm transmission level 6 t56, moser 12 bolt eaton posi w/ 4.11 gears, Hooker super comp long tube headers ory-pipe, slp loudmouth 1 .Full BMR suspension, Bilstein shocks. Torqhead 24x conversion.
02' SS, M6 BMR lowering springs, adj. pan-hard bar, Bilstein shocks. Lt1 front end conversion. Ford 9"
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01-06-2016, 10:32 PM
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looks good. yours def has more internal bracing than the Moser. mine did not have the dowls tieing the front and rear sections together
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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01-13-2016, 05:54 PM
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The quick housing is much nicer than the moser. I also had much better customer service from quick, moser's customer service sucked.
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01 SS 383 stroker, Magnum F, 9in.
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01-13-2016, 11:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B4C
The quick housing is much nicer than the moser. I also had much better customer service from quick, moser's customer service sucked.
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i didnt like the way the torque arm mounted on the quick version. i didnt really speak with either company much, but they both seemed to push me off the phones i think.
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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01-18-2016, 08:58 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Manahawkin New Jersey
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just had a quick question for you guys. I'm wondering if I went to big on my gear (4.11) I've been reading on ls1tech guys running a 408 stroker with a f1a procharger are running with a 3.42 gear or at the most 3.73. I've been on the fence about keeping this car a 6speed or going automatic, what do you guys think? Did I go to big for both? I have 305/35/18 drag radial for a rear tire for the street not sure what I should get for the track, would going to a 315 tire help with not breaking the tires loose, or should I gear the car down in the rear? This car is being set up to run E85 so it should be making 800ish rwhp. here is a link on why I ask http://ls1tech.com/forums/gears-axle...rear-gear.html
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97' Z28, M6 w/ golen engines 396 Lt1, rpm transmission level 6 t56, moser 12 bolt eaton posi w/ 4.11 gears, Hooker super comp long tube headers ory-pipe, slp loudmouth 1 .Full BMR suspension, Bilstein shocks. Torqhead 24x conversion.
02' SS, M6 BMR lowering springs, adj. pan-hard bar, Bilstein shocks. Lt1 front end conversion. Ford 9"
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01-19-2016, 08:53 AM
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You need to know your redline, car's power, and car's weight.
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01-19-2016, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LTb1ow
You need to know your redline, car's power, and car's weight.
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All of this but in general, sounds like you went too aggressive on the rear gear. For reference my car is putting down higher 700s to the tire, weighs about 4k lbs, 3.73 rear gear with a 27" tall drag oriented tire on a 15" rim. Suspension, driving, style and all that aside, I have trouble putting the power down at the track. On the street with 305/30/19 (Toyo R888), from 2nd gear its dicey but 3rd and up is fine. However in those gears, I'm well into "go directly to jail" land.
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01-21-2016, 02:07 PM
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I spoke with Max at quick performance who has been extremely helpful. He informed me that if it to much to let him know and he'll get me a gear that is not as aggressive. Moving on to the next stage of my build is transmission. I don't know if I really want to get rid of the 6 speed, so I spoke with Erik at tick performance about his level 4 tr-6060 trans. He explained to me that he converts a t56 magnum to except stock bell housings, shifters (and location).
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97' Z28, M6 w/ golen engines 396 Lt1, rpm transmission level 6 t56, moser 12 bolt eaton posi w/ 4.11 gears, Hooker super comp long tube headers ory-pipe, slp loudmouth 1 .Full BMR suspension, Bilstein shocks. Torqhead 24x conversion.
02' SS, M6 BMR lowering springs, adj. pan-hard bar, Bilstein shocks. Lt1 front end conversion. Ford 9"
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01-21-2016, 04:31 PM
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That would be the way to go if you want to stay manual. If my built T56 breaks, I will likely need to do that upgrade. I believe those have the fluid pump built into them correct?
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Forever dyno queen / 777rwhp 662 rwtq @ 17lbs / 10.2 @ 140
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01-29-2016, 06:27 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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looking for a steel bell housing for a ls1 t56 from summit or jegs does anyone have a part#
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97' Z28, M6 w/ golen engines 396 Lt1, rpm transmission level 6 t56, moser 12 bolt eaton posi w/ 4.11 gears, Hooker super comp long tube headers ory-pipe, slp loudmouth 1 .Full BMR suspension, Bilstein shocks. Torqhead 24x conversion.
02' SS, M6 BMR lowering springs, adj. pan-hard bar, Bilstein shocks. Lt1 front end conversion. Ford 9"
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