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12-27-2016, 06:10 PM
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Grandpas new ride
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock  SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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12-27-2016, 06:18 PM
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Wanna make sure you're not overlooking something stupid? Drain the oil and you'll know right away if it's the bottom end.
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...its cool to like diesels, cause that and pretending to be country is like, hip nowadays!!
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12-27-2016, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by zraffz
Wanna make sure you're not overlooking something stupid? Drain the oil and you'll know right away if it's the bottom end.
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that is going to be our next step.
we are just unfamiliar with engines this old, i guess a better way to phrase it, what are the common failures in these
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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12-27-2016, 10:14 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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Go on the HAMB. Lots of old timers that might be able to help.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/f...ssage-board.5/
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80 Firebird-350 SBC-Turbo 350-10 Bolt 3:42 Gear - 13.69 best et @ 97.52 MPH
96 Buick Roadmaster wagon LT-1 - (DD) for sale
2023 Equinox - wifey's car
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12-28-2016, 07:29 AM
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That looks sweet! My buddy is redoing a 29 chevy, it has me interested 
Best bet is a long screwdriver to probe around (Ear on handle) but I think draining the oil is the best bet. Get your flashlight ready for sparkles. I think that water pump needs to be greased every so often too.
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12-28-2016, 08:07 AM
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There are no bearings, so have fun!
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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12-28-2016, 01:29 PM
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1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41
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I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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12-28-2016, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LTb1ow
There are no bearings, so have fun! |
no bearings as in they never came with any? orrr they have all disintegrated?
either of those options sound plausible
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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12-29-2016, 09:20 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Originally Posted by redsoxsstink
no bearings as in they never came with any? orrr they have all disintegrated?
either of those options sound plausible
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It has babbit bearings, so you cannot just remove em and replace like current clevite etc. Molten metal poured em, cast, run in, and voila, bearing.
Old stuff 
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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12-29-2016, 09:46 AM
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Some have been machined to accept traditional bearings. OE was babbit. Water pump rope packing goes out and is a standard replacement item. There are pumps avail with bearings and seals today. If it hasn't been, convert to electronic ignition. Bangers are fairly robust engines but do need periodic maintenance.
An Ardun head with McCulloch supercharger would be a cool upgrade.
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01-12-2017, 02:13 PM
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That ride is sweet. Hope you get it figured out ASAP.
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01-12-2017, 06:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WayFast84
That ride is sweet. Hope you get it figured out ASAP.
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thanks!
a little update, oil has been drained and was clean, so still more troubleshooting is needed.
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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02-01-2017, 09:32 AM
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Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
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Do you have the timing lever advanced too far? The one I drove had a timing lever on the steering column.
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02-02-2017, 06:53 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PolarBear
Do you have the timing lever advanced too far? The one I drove had a timing lever on the steering column.
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it doesn't matter where the timing is set, it still knocks, advancing the timing only makes it worse.
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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02-03-2017, 09:38 PM
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Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
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Maybe the distributor is too far advanced then? Did you try to check the timing with a light? Not sure if that will work on that or not
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03-09-2017, 07:35 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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so to give an update..
grandpa went out and bought another engine that was supposed to be rebuilt (not the most economical thing or the way I would have done it). we rolled the dice and took the guys word and installed it last weekend. holy smokes was that other engine hurting, this thing sounds a whole lot better and runs better than the other one ever did. so looks like the car is ready to go, gonna put the old one on the stand and figure out what the damage is inside.
it was interesting working on something that old. it took about 8hrs the first go around, swapping clutches timing distributor and other nick nacks, since we know how it comes apart now I would say it would take half that time now start to finish. but it was fun working with my dad and grandpa at the same time on a car.
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
Last edited by redsoxsstink; 03-09-2017 at 07:41 PM.
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03-09-2017, 07:40 PM
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That is definitely a cool experience. Glad its running better.
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03-09-2017, 09:02 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Hey, there is a club down my way that I was going to join. They have a bunch of early pre-war cars. I bet someone there has contacts that will help. you want me to inquire?
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03-10-2017, 03:29 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinW
Hey, there is a club down my way that I was going to join. They have a bunch of early pre-war cars. I bet someone there has contacts that will help. you want me to inquire?
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everything seems to be good for now, do you know the name? ill write it down the for the future. thanks for the heads up
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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03-10-2017, 08:51 AM
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Iirc they have a facebook page too
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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03-13-2017, 11:43 AM
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Nice ride
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