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05-10-2016, 06:55 PM
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Nitrous made me do it
I seem to have melted my piston rings. I decided while the motors out to replace it with an ls3 stroker and go n/a for a while. Gonna be down for a while but I will be ready for Racewars!
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05-10-2016, 08:00 PM
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That sucks but I feel compelled.
What are the full specs on the new LS3?
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05-10-2016, 08:19 PM
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Ha! I was disgusted at first but now I'm anxious on getting the new motor.
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05-10-2016, 08:29 PM
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Starting with a new GM LS3 block, new ported LS3 heads. Callie's comp star 4.000" stroke crank, wiseco pistons, Manley H beam rods, arp bolts. Just off the top of my head
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05-11-2016, 07:10 AM
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how much nitrous were you spraying? any ignition retard box or anything ?
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05-11-2016, 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff wilson
Ha! I was disgusted at first but now I'm anxious on getting the new motor.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff wilson
Starting with a new GM LS3 block, new ported LS3 heads. Callie's comp star 4.000" stroke crank, wiseco pistons, Manley H beam rods, arp bolts. Just off the top of my head
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It's a terrible feeling for sure but sounds like you are on to bigger and better things. Are you planning on spraying or boosting the LS3 eventually or keeping it NA?
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05-11-2016, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
It's a terrible feeling for sure but sounds like you are on to bigger and better things. Are you planning on spraying or boosting the LS3 eventually or keeping it NA?
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Motor is being built for n/a specifically with intentions on bracket racing. Should make around 575hp, hoping for a solid 10sec reliable/ consistent machine.
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05-11-2016, 10:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff wilson
I seem to have melted my piston rings. I decided while the motors out to replace it with an ls3 stroker and go n/a for a while. Gonna be down for a while but I will be ready for Racewars!
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Cracked a ringland or?
Stock short block?
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05-11-2016, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by IROCZman15
how much nitrous were you spraying? any ignition retard box or anything ?
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Only 100 wet, have an arming/timing retard/widow switch. the guess is there was a fuel problem.
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05-11-2016, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by NJ Torque
Cracked a ringland or?
Stock short block?
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Rings slightly melted to the top of the piston. Stock block. Best time 10.2 @ 133mph
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05-11-2016, 11:05 AM
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Most of the time, there is a timing issue and not a fuel issue... but I may be wrong.
Your car was cam only, right?
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2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.
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05-11-2016, 12:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Torque
Most of the time, there is a timing issue and not a fuel issue... but I may be wrong.
Your car was cam only, right?
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Cam and stock ported heads. Your probably rite about the timing. Really didn't look into the problem that deep. I made up my mind on the new motor pretty quick.
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05-11-2016, 12:16 PM
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How many passes did you make on that 100 shot. You have me 2nd guessing myself now. I have kit hooked up just waiting to hit the button. Did you spray it on a dyno the 1st time?
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05-11-2016, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MDSheds_SS
How many passes did you make on that 100 shot. You have me 2nd guessing myself now. I have kit hooked up just waiting to hit the button. Did you spray it on a dyno the 1st time?
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it was sprayed on the dyno. I wouldn't really second guess yourself. If everything is rite you'll be fine.
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05-11-2016, 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDSheds_SS
How many passes did you make on that 100 shot. You have me 2nd guessing myself now. I have kit hooked up just waiting to hit the button. Did you spray it on a dyno the 1st time?
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Your gonna have to change your shift points before you spray
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05-11-2016, 12:51 PM
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I was gonna have TTP put in a nitrous tune for me so I'm sure they will adjust everything as needed. Thanks for the heads up tho. Good luck with your Ls3 build. There's an LSA for sale on CL for $9500
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05-11-2016, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff wilson
Cam and stock ported heads. Your probably rite about the timing. Really didn't look into the problem that deep. I made up my mind on the new motor pretty quick.
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Not bad for a small setup.
Timing brakes parts. If you went lean, normally it doesn't make power... its not nearly as bad as too much timing.
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How many passes did you make on that 100 shot. You have me 2nd guessing myself now. I have kit hooked up just waiting to hit the button. Did you spray it on a dyno the 1st time?
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Originally Posted by MDSheds_SS
I was gonna have TTP put in a nitrous tune for me so I'm sure they will adjust everything as needed. Thanks for the heads up tho. Good luck with your Ls3 build. There's an LSA for sale on CL for $9500
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You can have TTP do the tune or get a LNC001/timing twister and pull the timing when you want and run NA other times.
If you want, a sunday or a day when you can, do some runs and pop the plugs out to make sure everything is okay.
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1999 Z28 Convertible. 6 speed swap, wide cowl hood, full hockey stripes, and a whining 10 bolt.
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06-19-2017, 06:43 PM
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sorry to hear that
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Originally Posted by jeff wilson
I seem to have melted my piston rings. I decided while the motors out to replace it with an ls3 stroker and go n/a for a while. Gonna be down for a while but I will be ready for Racewars!
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did you run out of fuel....???
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