THE biggest online debate ever?

[Fasterthanyou]

The plane will take off because the conveyor is tracking the plane SPEED (not velocity) but since the wheels (friction or not) have no influence on the plane position then they are out of the "system of influences."
It says the plane moves in a direction. Well where does it say what moved it from a standing? Was it by it's OWN power? If it moved in a direction then it must be under it's own power and it must be moving no matter WHAT the ground is doing . Hence it will move along the runway and fly. In a real world you could say most planes wouldn't take off because the tires would blow-out or the friction in the bearings of the wheels would seize... but this is a theoretical question so those things are neglected and even if they weren't there are planes that take off at very low speeds.
In other words, the wheeld don't do **** so stop talking about them as if they are an influence.
You need to know the difference between speed and velocity for any of this to make sense.

[Tsar]

i was wrong.

http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/191034-1.html

/end thread

[GP99GT]

Originally Posted by Tsar

i was wrong.

http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/191034-1.html

/end thread

thank you.

everyone that argued it...get on your knees

[Ian]

...and join the F the plane club!!!!

[Brando56894]

i was gonna say it wouldnt fly, when i first read it i immeadiately thought of ians idea with the tread mill. now that i read the (main part of the) article, it will fly

[Koll]

With a prop. whatabout a jet?

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by Koll

With a prop. whatabout a jet?

why not just give up. it was proven. prop or jet, results would be the same. stop kicking a dead horse.

[Teds89IROC]

Originally Posted by GP99GT

thank you.

everyone that argued it...get on your knees

~Ted

[Kojak]

The plane will take off. But in light of the recent snow, I’ve been wondering. If the wheels do not relate to the tires how come a plane's efficiency of slowing down is greatly reduced when even a light snow covers the tarmac, such as the case in Chicago, in which it skidded into the street. Why not slow the plane down with the Jet Engine?

Since the friction of the tires do not relate to the plane because the thrust will break through it going foreword, why cant’ the thrust be reversed for a landing to slow the plane down without the tires help? And if it was reversed would it work in a real life situation?

I’m only asking the question because we all now understand why the plane will take off on the conveyer, so why not ask ourselves another question and keep this, “F’en” plane thing going. I know that pilots gun the engines foreword on landing, and all of that jargon but just what if..?

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by Kojak

The plane will take off. But in light of the recent snow, I’ve been wondering. If the wheels do not relate to the tires how come a plane's efficiency of slowing down is greatly reduced when even a light snow covers the tarmac, such as the case in Chicago, in which it skidded into the street. Why not slow the plane down with the Jet Engine?

Since the friction of the tires do not relate to the plane because the thrust will break through it going foreword, why cant’ the thrust be reversed for a landing to slow the plane down without the tires help? And if it was reversed would it work in a real life situation?

I’m only asking the question because we all now understand why the plane will take off on the conveyer, so why not ask ourselves another question and keep this, “F’en” plane thing going. I know that pilots gun the engines foreword on landing, and all of that jargon but just what if..?

you do know that they have breaks on the wheels and they use those too. So when your airplane starts to skid there's not much you can do, you just there for a ride. High speed landing + snow covered runway = no good.

[12secondv6]

Originally Posted by Tsar

lol you enjoying this arent you?

My god yes!

We should send emails to airline manufacturer's!

[Savage_Messiah]

F

the

effin

PLANE!!!!!!!!

[Rob WS6]

LET IT DIE!

[12secondv6]

TTT!

[oh one ls1 SS]

so the plane wount take off?

[Savage_Messiah]

GO F YOURSELF

[V]

sorry, i had to, some new members may like to think about this and form their own conclusions, and yes im an ass for bringing the thread back to life, deal with it, haha

...btw i think this is the longest post on these boards

[turbo96z28]

not if the buddy list thread keeps going.


and this was one of the first threads i read when i got here.

make it go away.

[Savage_Messiah]

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


IT MUST DIE

[V]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


IT MUST DIE

you just made it live 2 posts longer, by saying that and by making me comment to what you said... to let it die would mean to resist posting here at all, post on the buddy list one, i wanna get it to 1,000 posts...

[WayFast84]

If it was on the belt side ways would it take off? what about upside down?

[trashman01]

Originally Posted by WayFast84

If it was on the belt side ways would it take off? what about upside down?

would a peice of wood hold ur car back by itself on a 90% grade?

[Brando56894]

90% grade wtf?

[Ian]

wayfasts car is being held in place by a piece of wood.

[turbo96z28]

if wayfasts car was on a runway, would anyone really care???















and by that post i have cntributed once again to making this thread live even though i wish it wouldn't.