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04-02-2008, 10:39 PM
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headers on a 3.4 are WAY easier than you'd think...me and Ron had the manifolds out of my car in under an hour
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Bubba there is no doubt in my mind that youll still find a way to screw it up. btw Ron = teh ***** at working on cars so nuff said about that.
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04-02-2008, 10:47 PM
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do you ever go through sewell? I never see your car, id love to see it in person.
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I am right on Chapel Heights Rd. im always heading through glasboro on the way to school around 7:20 am. We will have to meet up sometime to shoot the **** maybe during the header swap. Startin to look like 2 south jrsey meets in one month with as many people that might show up. LOL!!
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04-03-2008, 06:45 AM
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Bubba there is no doubt in my mind that youll still find a way to screw it up. btw Ron = teh ***** at working on cars so nuff said about that.
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I only screw stuff up when I have to use cheaper, or reuse parts I shouldn't have because I can afford new/better parts. my mechanical ability is sound, my wallet just can't keep up.
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04-03-2008, 09:11 AM
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I am right on Chapel Heights Rd. im always heading through glasboro on the way to school around 7:20 am. We will have to meet up sometime to shoot the **** maybe during the header swap. Startin to look like 2 south jrsey meets in one month with as many people that might show up. LOL!!
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haha hell yeah man, i'm getting my front end fixed soon and on the road to a dyno. yeah i live down the road from clearview highschool.
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04-03-2008, 07:02 PM
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i have a lift and lots of tools/air compressor at my house, and that would make header install a heck of alot easier. i live within 1 hour south of you. ive done a few installs on my car and my friends cars. If youre willing to make the drive, i am willing to lend a hand. if your stock exhaust manifold gaskets are in good shape, re use them. if not, buy the stock replacements. My friends and I had no issues with leaks.
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04-04-2008, 06:00 AM
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i have a lift and lots of tools/air compressor at my house, and that would make header install a heck of alot easier. i live within 1 hour south of you. ive done a few installs on my car and my friends cars. If youre willing to make the drive, i am willing to lend a hand. if your stock exhaust manifold gaskets are in good shape, re use them. if not, buy the stock replacements. My friends and I had no issues with leaks.
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the pace setters come with gaskets.
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04-04-2008, 08:16 AM
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I only screw stuff up when I have to use cheaper, or reuse parts I shouldn't have because I can afford new/better parts. my mechanical ability is sound, my wallet just can't keep up.
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If you can't afford the hobby get a cheaper one!
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04-04-2008, 09:56 AM
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I have read several posts from various boards about the insufficient quality of the gaskets that are supplied with the pacesetters. Im looking at picking up some abbot or fel-pro gaskets
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04-04-2008, 11:34 AM
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i have copper on mine but you have to make sure you use the sealer (cant remember the exact name)
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04-04-2008, 11:54 AM
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are u talking about the copper RTV?
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04-04-2008, 12:14 PM
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are u talking about the copper RTV?
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They make copper header gaskets. Basically blow-out proof, but they aren't the best at giving a complete seal from what I remember.
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04-04-2008, 05:53 PM
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they don't make the special gaskets for 3.4s
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04-04-2008, 10:13 PM
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if the stock ones resemble anything like the LS1 stock gaskets, get the stock ones. dont have to worry about sealant or anything
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04-05-2008, 04:58 PM
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just get these from advance auto
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04-06-2008, 12:32 AM
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I have been talking with members of camarov6.com and ftv6.com and the fiero gaskets fit much better than the stock one on these pacesetter headers. Look at FunkZ's post #10 on this thread. The pics of the stock gaskets on the headers
http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums...=gaskets+fiero
These fel-pro gaskets apparently fit much better
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04-06-2008, 06:43 PM
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I have been talking with members of camarov6.com and ftv6.com and the fiero gaskets fit much better than the stock one on these pacesetter headers. Look at FunkZ's post #10 on this thread. The pics of the stock gaskets on the headers
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Yes, just keep in mind that gaskets like the ones Bubba posted will be easiest to install. You can loosely put the bottom header bolts in and then let the header hang while you drop the gasket in through the gap. I've never done 3.4 V6 gaskets so I don't know how much room you have, but the drop-in gaskets (if they are good quality) can be a lifesaver if the header is in some wacky position.
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04-07-2008, 06:45 AM
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they are in one hell of a spot, the 2 missing cylinders helps a bit but its still tight.
Big question: Are you keeping the emissions crap?
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04-07-2008, 07:56 AM
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Big question: Are you keeping the emissions crap?
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What else is there besides the EGR? I would like to keep it, i just replaced it about 4 months ago. Also wont i fail inspection without it? has to be reinspected in 09) or at the very least drop codes all the time?i have a proscanner but i would rather not have to pull it our to delete the code everytime it drops it. I belive the only alteration to the EGR is the fact that the tube has to be filed down a little bit to fit into the headers.
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04-07-2008, 08:01 AM
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I don't know if yours will have it but there is an AIR tube that runs around the back of the motor. its not necessary but at state inspection they may fail you if they know what they are looking for.
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04-07-2008, 02:17 PM
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the 3.4L's with automatic trans didnt have the AIR option if my research is correct
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04-08-2008, 05:29 PM
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that should make it easier
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04-08-2008, 10:24 PM
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if you erase codes it resets all of the individual system's "readiness" which becomes a failure on almost all 96+ OBD-II cars if more than two are "not ready". examples are misfire, evap, o2's. ect...
i just replaced the donut between the y-pipe and manifold on the passenger side on my 3.4l, what a beast! its nice and quiet now but i'm not sure it was worth the fight! those are sooooo tight!
oh and the egr is so simple to replace so make sure you get headers with a hookup. and the gaskets too. might as well while you are there.
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04-11-2008, 01:01 PM
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I have been sitting here looking at herron performance's website and i just cant make the decicion on armor coated or just that painted ones. I have the stage 8's, the gaskets, pb blaster, beer ; just have to decide
Armor coated
pros
- proposed head reduction
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-extra $117
-have been told the finish will start to come off anyway after a year and start to rust anyway (have been told that but have yet to see pics after a year or so.)
-in the 3.4 you really cant even see them
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its not that i dont have the cash for them its just that im having a hard to justifying the fact that spending the extra coin for somehting that will just start to rust anyway after a year dosnt seem worth it. Also according to several posts the coating is only rated to about a 1000 degrees (the reason it starts to flake) while getting the JET-Coated one ($471) is the onlything that will hold up to the heat in the engine bay.
does anyone have armor coated headers - does the finish hold up?
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04-11-2008, 04:25 PM
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The amor coating on my pacesetters suck total ass. I would order the painted ones, send them to jet-hot and get the sterling 1300 coating.
Ive had mine on for about a year and they are looking like total crap and the finish is comming off. I ran the jet-hot coating on the edelbrocks i had on my old 91 for 3+ years up until i sold it and the finish still looked great.
little more money now saves a lot of work later.
~Tim
oh, and im not saying this for asthetic reasons. They are not stainless steel so one the finish comes off they will rust. Mine are rusting at the collectors, and little on the primary flanges so I'm going to pull them off soon and totally redo everything.
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04-11-2008, 04:52 PM
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ive had mine for about 5 months now and they still look good.
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