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Old 04-11-2015, 10:21 AM   #26
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So machine work should be done by next week. Was a bit more extensive than I originally wanted but at this point YOLO. Bores were at the service limit and beyond a hone so now its 30 over. Heads were shaved flat and pistons are 20 in the hole. Which gaskets should I get? I bought a whole gasket kit that includes the stock 0.051", but should I get the VR 4.100" x 0.026" gaskets? 10.5:1 vs 11.3:1 CR and 8.2:1 vs 8.78:1 DCR. 0.071" vs 0.046" for quench. I want to run 93 without issues.

Recommendation on spark plugs?
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Old 04-11-2015, 08:38 PM   #27
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Thin gaskets. Do not go old school SBC thinking on SCR.

Stock heads, I used to run autolites, step colder than stock. I run TR6s now though.
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:49 AM   #28
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no gasket, Copper RTV spray and call it a day, gives you a nice tight quench and higher compression. Don't have to worry about blowing another headgasket in the future either.
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Old 04-27-2015, 07:15 PM   #29
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Fuel injectors... Sounds like 30# should be plenty. Best place to source them? Rebuilt/flow matched ok to buy such as these ..

http://fuelinjectorconnection.com/sh...product_id=168
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Old 04-30-2015, 09:58 AM   #30
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If you can find em, grab some Ford 30# SVO sticks, their usually available and cheap.

Edit: TBH though, that cam and stock heads prob won't need more than stock injectors.
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:10 PM   #31
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Last piece of the puzzle is ordering pushrods. I have the CC pushrod checker tool. I went with LS7 lifters and made one temporarily solid with washers. The heads and deck have been milled/refinished (I'm not 100% sure but i think together around 0.015-0.020") and I went with a 0.039 gasket so I think I should need slightly shorter pushrods. Just want to verify if I did this correctly.

Setting the rocker at zero lash and rotating yielded these results..

Stock length pushrod:



Adj pushrod set to 7.100":



Adj pushrod set to 7.050":



How much should you add to account for preload? The rockers are mounted on ARP 7/16" studs.

Hopefully I did this right ?

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The last one looks good, are you running NSA or SA?
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Old 05-11-2015, 09:18 PM   #33
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The last one looks good, are you running NSA or SA?
NSA. So if I did 1/2 turn preload I should add 0.0406" (corrected) to 7.050 rounding to a 7.100" pushrod?
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Old 05-11-2015, 09:26 PM   #34
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These should be good enough?

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-21407100
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:49 AM   #35
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Of course pics are blocked at work, but last night it seemed you did not have guideplates on?
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Of course pics are blocked at work, but last night it seemed you did not have guideplates on?
No they're on, went with the GMPP, probably should verify they're hardened ..
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They adjustable?

The last pattern looks good, what does the patent look like with 7.10" on teh checker?
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They adjustable?

The last pattern looks good, what does the patent look like with 7.10" on teh checker?
Non-adj.

7.1" seemed pretty close to stock. Did you mean 7.0"?
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7.1" seemed pretty close to stock. Did you mean 7.0"?
You showed 7.05 looking good, then linked a 7.1 PR. So, how does the pattern look when you run it with a 7.1 length?
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You showed 7.05 looking good, then linked a 7.1 PR. So, how does the pattern look when you run it with a 7.1 length?
Maybe you missed my post above, don't you add in lifter preload? If 7.050 worked well on a solid lifter then to achieve that same effective length wouldn't you add 0.04ish (1/2 turn at 0.050"/turn x 1.625 correction since valve is now pivot) so then 7.09 ~ 7.1" pushrod ? Even at 1/4 turn preload you'd want a slightly larger pushrod anyway right?
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:58 PM   #41
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Yea, sorry missed that aspect.

I just measure and buy as is, never added/subtracted preload etc. That is just me though.
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