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11-16-2012, 02:19 PM
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Yes it ran but idk how well. I've never heard it run or driven it prior and it was already having some issues when it was running before the distributor was removed.
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11-16-2012, 04:20 PM
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Next person to post bad or jokey tech info in here gets a 2 weeker.
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11-16-2012, 04:53 PM
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It ran very strong..felt like it had alot of power and torque..now it just feel weighed down..or revved out at a very low rpm.
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11-16-2012, 05:00 PM
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Not sure what you mean by "revved out"
My advice is it get a accurate timing setting on it first. Weather that means putting a new timing cover on if the tab is missing, or aftermarket timing tab (not sure if the stock balancer will work with a aftermarket tab since ive seen them before not match. Maybe someone here can verify)
Set the timing to 6 degrees advance with the EST wire unplugged. If it pings bring it down a little bit. Start with that and go from there.
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11-16-2012, 05:04 PM
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this ^^ until it is fixed and timed right this is all nonsense. /discussion /speculation
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11-16-2012, 05:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B4C
Correct, has the line on the balancer but no tab.
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Should just have a small tab with a groove in it. It SHOULD be a plastic timing cover IIRC
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11-16-2012, 05:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deadtrend1
Not sure what you mean by "revved out"
My advice is it get a accurate timing setting on it first. Weather that means putting a new timing cover on if the tab is missing, or aftermarket timing tab (not sure if the stock balancer will work with a aftermarket tab since ive seen them before not match. Maybe someone here can verify)
Set the timing to 6 degrees advance with the EST wire unplugged. If it pings bring it down a little bit. Start with that and go from there.
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I got a Mr.Gasket one in the mail...The car honstely feels like its on the rev limiter at 3k rpm. Like it hits a wall.
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Should just have a small tab with a groove in it. It SHOULD be a plastic timing cover IIRC
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Maybe just not seeing it but it looks like there is nothing there. Ill double check, its not what Im used to looking at. Used to old school sbc stuff and ls1's so I was looking for a timing scale like the old sbc's used to have.
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11-16-2012, 05:17 PM
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And if you manage to somehow see the stock tab on there. This is what they indicate ...
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11-16-2012, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
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I got a Mr.Gasket one in the mail...The car honstely feels like its on the rev limiter at 3k rpm. Like it hits a wall.
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This is a symptom of bad timing. Could be too much or too little initial, too much total, bad curve, etc.
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11-16-2012, 05:23 PM
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Quote:
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And if you manage to somehow see the stock tab on there. This is what they indicate ...
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There is no tab on there that looks like that, maybe there is something like polarbear said but I was looking for a scale like the one u posted.
Im looking at the drivers side of the block just below the left side of the waterpump if its like the older sbc....correct?
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11-16-2012, 05:24 PM
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I seem to remember my timing tabs being on the driver's side. Post a pic if you can.
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11-16-2012, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
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I seem to remember my timing tabs being on the driver's side. Post a pic if you can.
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yes
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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11-16-2012, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B4C
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Im looking at the passenger side of the block just below the left side of the waterpump if its like the older sbc....correct?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBillyT
I seem to remember my timing tabs being on the driver's side. Post a pic if you can.
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Yes
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11-16-2012, 05:29 PM
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typo...
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11-16-2012, 05:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B4C
Maybe just not seeing it but it looks like there is nothing there. Ill double check, its not what Im used to looking at. Used to old school sbc stuff and ls1's so I was looking for a timing scale like the old sbc's used to have.
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may look similar to this
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11-16-2012, 05:53 PM
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yeah there is nothing, its completely flat, and steel.
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11-16-2012, 05:58 PM
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more standard style sbc cover
just know what ever point you got you need to verify TDC & 08. there are different balancers with the mark in different places.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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11-16-2012, 05:58 PM
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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11-16-2012, 06:04 PM
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Thanks for the link, I found it hiding behind the water pump...never thought to look there.
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11-16-2012, 06:06 PM
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so it is this one maybe?
you better verify TDC & 0* line up the marks.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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Quote:
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Thanks for the link, I found it hiding behind the water pump...never thought to look there.
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I should have mentioned that. With the accessory drive it isn't really easy to see with the serp setup
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11-16-2012, 06:21 PM
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Quote:
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so it is this one maybe?
you better verify TDC & 0* line up the marks.
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that is the one, didnt think to look back there for it
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12-06-2012, 01:55 AM
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Anyone know what the timing should be set at? Have it set at 4* advanced currently. Still runs like poop but it could be the 2yr old gas.
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12-06-2012, 08:50 AM
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You disconnected the est lead before you made the adjustment?
2 year old gas? Hmmmmmm
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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12-06-2012, 08:56 AM
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2 year old gas? If the tank's not full, top it off with premium.
Regarding the initial timing, what's the engine combo? Still stock?
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