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				Cats and no muffler is the way to go. eaisly the best sounding and doesnt hinder peformance too much. 
			
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				Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.  
 
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months. 
			
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				Cats and no muffler is the way to go. eaisly the best sounding and doesnt hinder peformance too much. 
			
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When I had my GTA, the muffler fell off once when I was fishtailing out of control (another story all in it's self). I took the coat hanger off that was holding the tail pipe up and threw the muffler in the trunk. Car sounded AWESOME!!! SLP headers, SLP y-pipe, high flow cat and SLP two out the left cat back with no muffler sounds wicked!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			how'd the intall go? 
 
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				Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.  
 
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			I got the emission's and coated headers.  But I'm only halfway done.  I tweaked my back last Sunday so I couldn't work on it and I decided to get new motor mounts while I was in there and they haven't shown up yet.  I'll be putting dual cats in the y-pipe after it's up and running.  No reason not to run cats since they only cost 3-4 hp.  The muffler robs more power than the cats do.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				No reason not to run cats since they only cost 3-4 hp.  The muffler robs more power than the cats do. 
			
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				Of course, thats only if you are running on a stock tune. If you want to tweak your A/F for best #'s then !cat is the way to go (because you fry them if you don't take them off). 
 
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				werd, maybe its time i invest in that tunercat stuff hehe. 
			
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			Yeah, buy 1 cat, cut it in half and have it welded to the y-pipe to look like 2 cats.  Viola!  You pass the visual inspection.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Untill the techs eyes start to water from that smell. 
  
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			what other y-pipe could you run other than the pacesetter when running pacesetter LT's? 
 
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			there is programming to dump in fuel when you go to WOT. it is cat over temp protection or something like that. eliminating the excess fuel also allows you to dial in a touch more timing. 
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				what other y-pipe could you run other than the pacesetter when running pacesetter LT's? 
 
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 I think the Jet-Hot y-pipe comes close to fitting but it's very poorly designed compared to the Pacesetter y-pipe.  Take a look at some pictures and you'll see the Pacesetter y-pipe is actually built pretty good with more of a "Y" junction than the Jet-Hot.  Best choice would be to put the headers on and take it to Mufflex to let them make you a custom y-pipe.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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