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Old 05-31-2007, 12:56 AM   #26
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The headlights look to have a projector beem lense on the outside.
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:05 AM   #27
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for 130k i could own a sublime green hemi 'cuda and piss all over everyones car thats on here

my slower car would smokeeeeeeeeeee your "hemi cuda" hemis are junk...mopar in the 70s is like VW now...FOR YUPPIES LIKE YOU ... now go buy a passat 2.0 turbo you unoriginal f-body owner.....
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:41 AM   #28
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my slower car would smokeeeeeeeeeee your "hemi cuda" hemis are junk...mopar in the 70s is like VW now...FOR YUPPIES LIKE YOU ... now go buy a passat 2.0 turbo you unoriginal f-body owner.....
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:04 AM   #29
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hes not all there if you know what i mean.
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:40 AM   #30
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Eh....i kinda like it. Those wheels especially. Maybe they would be better if they were brought down to a 17" instead of 18", but I like them. The overall look is good, IMO.

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Old 05-31-2007, 11:35 PM   #31
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wildbilly...nope.... a hemi cuda in the quarter isnt to fast stock.... 425 horse in a heavy car is the same as 225 horse in a civic..

as much as i hate hondas its true...
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Old 06-01-2007, 07:50 AM   #32
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wildbilly...nope.... a hemi cuda in the quarter isnt to fast stock.... 425 horse in a heavy car is the same as 225 horse in a civic..

as much as i hate hondas its true...
While it certainly isn't a "spin-the-earth-off-its-axis" engine like most old timers would lead us to believe, hemi cars are no slouch. The 425hp rating is also wildly regarded as BS- just like the ZL1 engines.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:07 AM   #33
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The 426 was actually quite fast in its day. I remember reading an article in one of the car mags a few years ago and they did an 'old vs. new' shootout where they took like a dozen classic muscle cars and put em up against modern cars. They had like a '69 Camaro vs a 2000 Camaro, '70 Mustang Mach 1 vs 2000 Mustang GT, and a '70 Hemi 'Cuda vs a Viper. They also cross raced some of the cars against each other. In all, all of the classic cars lost, except for the Cuda. (The Cuda lost the first race, but they threw on some DOT slicks and it won the second round if I remember correctly because it kept spinning off the line).
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:59 PM   #34
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While it certainly isn't a "spin-the-earth-off-its-axis" engine like most old timers would lead us to believe, hemi cars are no slouch. The 425hp rating is also wildly regarded as BS- just like the ZL1 engines.

the horsepower ratings were very different back then to todays counterpart...also the zl1 was a super super rare option that was underated for insurance reasons...

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/roadtests/37426/

that explains alot bout the hemi...


and back then low 14's on the street was comparable to low 10s on the street today....
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:37 AM   #35
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the horsepower ratings were very different back then to todays counterpart...also the zl1 was a super super rare option that was underated for insurance reasons...

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/roadtests/37426/

that explains alot bout the hemi...


and back then low 14's on the street was comparable to low 10s on the street today....
I understand that there was gross vs. net HP and rare options. But in recent years they rebuilt some of the factory supercar motors to spec and threw them on today's engine dynos and they were not "junk"- especially if you remove some of the crappy factory supporting parts, like poor flowing exhaust.

That's a good article (note: “I changed the mechanical cam to hydraulic lifters"), but I was talking in terms of engine power, not chassis power regarding the horsepower. Chassis and drivetrain stuff has come a long way. These cars were low-mid 13 second cars (See this)at best because of chassis and other limitations (bias ply tires). I remember seeing a ZL1 test that showed it picking up a disgusting (80?) amount of horsepower when they dumped the exhaust from the manifolds back for a cheap set of open headers. I guess that's my point- bone showroom stock these cars were "OK" but after a few small mods they would open up greatly. I still wouldn't call the hemi "junk".

I'll see if I can dig up the ZL1 article, scan it, and post it up- it's actually a good read.
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