random drunk driving check

[zuuhlsT/A]

The first question outta my mouth is always "What seems to be the problem officer?" Most of the time it was legit, ie. lamp out, failure to signal, stuff like that. I don't mind as long as the officer is respectful and cool. I got pulled over at 2 am once and all the officer wanted to do was compliment me on my car! I sat and bs'd with the guy for like a half hour. Most cops are just like me and you.

Originally Posted by IROCdan330

I dont know why some people have it out for cops so bad

Cause a cop gave me three tickets into my first day of driving(five hours into it). only one of which held up in court: Failure to inspect (one day overdue). and other than that, the cop has usually just told me about how he had a Trans Am like mine and how he was always getting into trouble and how the police will probably hassle me until i get a I4 pos honda.

[Frosty]

Wait, so you're pissed off that he wrote you for a legit ticket? WTF?

No, IROCdan asked why people have it out for police. I don't like them cause 5 hours into my first day, pulling out of a drive way i apparently "chirpped tires" and he said i did a full on burn out. so he gave me Reckless Driving, Careless Driving, and failure to inspect. I am fine with the failure to inspect casue that was a legit ticket. but my first day into driving and i get a reckless (5 points) and careless (2 points). neither of which stood up in court cause I did neither. listen before ya jump on my back.

[Frosty]

Ok, so the one that held up was legit. I'm failing to see the problem. I also didn't jump on your back so relax.


Also, I never knew you could get a careless and a reckless at the same time. That's odd, what town was this in?

[ShitOnWheels]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Ok, so the one that held up was legit. I'm failing to see the problem. I also didn't jump on your back, if you want I certain can you tool.

Also, I never knew you could get a careless and a reckless at the same time. That's odd, what town was this in?

What he is saying is the reason he got pulled over in the first place was NOT legit, hence the tickets not standing up in court. If the cop had pulled him over only for the inspection, he might not have it out for them as much.

[ShitOnWheels]

Originally Posted by NumberTwo

You're missing my point. Police are here to make sure we obey the laws. The MVC is the one that grants and or denies us the privelage to drive, NOT the Police.

You're missing my point. The MVC grants the priviledge based on what the cops say. The cop doesn't say "you can no longer drive." The cop says "Here's your ticket." Enough tickets/points and the MVC says "You can't drive for xx days."

Until the MVC gets their own patrol agency (a waste of money, but I wouldn't put it past NJ), the cops enforce the rules and laws of driving, the MVC determines who still gets the priviledge to drive.

Originally Posted by Frosty

Also, I never knew you could get a careless and a reckless at the same time. That's odd, what town was this in?

Allentown NJ. the worst place on earth to have a Trans Am. and thank you SOW. he wouldn't have seen the inspection had i not gotten pulled over for bs.

[NumberTwo]

Originally Posted by ****OnWheels

You're missing my point. The MVC grants the priviledge based on what the cops say. The cop doesn't say "you can no longer drive." The cop says "Here's your ticket." Enough tickets/points and the MVC says "You can't drive for xx days."

Until the MVC gets their own patrol agency (a waste of money, but I wouldn't put it past NJ), the cops enforce the rules and laws of driving, the MVC determines who still gets the priviledge to drive.

The MVC grants us the right to hold a license based on what the COURT says.

And did I not say that the cops enforce the LAWS while the MVC grants the privelage? You just agreed with what I said.

[ShitOnWheels]

Originally Posted by NumberTwo

They may not need to give me personally the reason they pulled me over, but they do need probable cause. While driving is a privelage, it isnt the Polices job to enforce/deny that privelage. Thats why we have the MVC.

This issue is kinda like a double edged sword. Im all for the Police getting unwanted drunk drivers off the roads, but I am not for them just pulling people over for whatever reason they feel like.

I was originally replying to the bolded part, where you say it's not the police's job to enforce the priviledge, when they enforce the laws that provide the priviledge. We agree on that, that the cops are there to enforce the laws.

Then you say

You're missing my point. Police are here to make sure we obey the laws. The MVC is the one that grants and or denies us the privelage to drive, NOT the Police.

In which I responded that you're missing the point. I no where said the police can deny or grant the priviledge, they just enforce the laws that provide us that priviledge. The rules of the MVC state that vehicles must be inspected to be in working order. The police are the ones to enforce that cars are inspected. They don't take away the car unless you are a risk to yourself or others (in very bad condition, driving drunk/impaired, etc), or unless the MVC states the car needs to be impounded (which happened to someone I know once because he didn't turn in his vanity plates right away). But they don't say "oh, you were going 50 in a 45, you can't drive anymore."

And yes, you're right, the MVC goes by court decisions to deny driving priviledges, but it's the cop that brings it to the courts attention via tickets.

[shane27]

even if im totally trashed but im driving fine i dont think i deserve to be pulled over

[Knipps]

to clarify what i said earlier, my feelings are like this

if the driver's weaving/swaying anything out of the ordinary, fine
if it's a checkpoint, fine
if i'm just driving and you feel like pulling me over, that i have a problem with.

i understand driving's a privilege but there should have to be a reason to pull someone over, anyone. not just pulling over some random person to check and see if they're drunk driving.

if they are pulled over with a random car and a drunk driver goes whizzing by what's going to happen? sure they can call it in, but the first officer would have been able to take care of it.

[Brando56894]

this would kind of piss me off, i freak out when i see those lights flip on even if im not doing anything illegal.

[qwikz28]

why would you be nervous getting pulled over if you have nothing to hide? even sometimes i do something stupid i get off, so i wouldn't worry if i know a cop is just checking.

[procamaroz28]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Ok, so the one that held up was legit. I'm failing to see the problem. I also didn't jump on your back so relax.


Also, I never knew you could get a careless and a reckless at the same time. That's odd, what town was this in?

cops are NOT allowed to do that they cant even give careless or reckless w/ speeding those tickets can only be given alone or with non moving violations otherwise they will be tossed as soon as the judge sees them

yea, thats what the trooper at my school told me. the trooper said he was probably after my license.

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by qwikz28

why would you be nervous getting pulled over if you have nothing to hide? even sometimes i do something stupid i get off, so i wouldn't worry if i know a cop is just checking.

While Brando is a friggin waste, the point still stands that when I see a cop, I get tense.
I would figure that 70% of cops are up to no good(speeding, going through red lights, taking U turns at intersections, going around traffic, etc) or bored enough to just to bust balls.
So what tends to happen is the following. They get behind you, ride your *** for a few blocks, check plates, bug you from a very close distance, and then either take off or pull you over.
Why do cops HAVE to ride my ass? There is no reason, they shouldnt. Unsafe distance from car to car, isnt that illegal?
Now, a man like myself with 12 points tend to be the fan of many visits by police officers. 12 points, I must be up to no good. I guess thats enough for them to see what I might be doing. Lets not even go there when I have the Camaro out. All the questioning about QQ plates, why am I driving the car, where am I going, do I have paperwork for any repairs done, whatever the case.
Why do I not feel safe when I see a cop? Even better, why do I feel even more in danger when I see one? They sit on my street and nail all the people taking illegal turns, and they nail about 10 a day.
I dont feel safe around cops. I dont like how they hide to catch speeders. It shouldnt be about SURPRISE, GOTCHA!
Why cant they just stand out in the open, where people dont react instinctivly and slam on thier brakes?
I belive that some cops do have a good heart and really just dont want to bust balls, but there are probably a large group of cops that were picked on at some point in thier life, and this is thier way of getting back at the world. It happens, oh well.
Should you be pulled over for swerving? Yeah, I guess to make sure everything is ok, but not be on the offensive and looking for problems. I would first asked if everything was ok, and from there I would use my super-cop powers to see if you were indeed drunk, sleepy, or maybe just tried to avoid an animal.
Large DWI check points are good, but they are good when they target a certain time where most people might be drinking and driving, ie summer time, jersey shore, around 2-4am when clubs and bars let out. DWI checkpoint at 3 in the afternoon....uhh, no thanks.
Ive got nothing to hide, but that doesnt give cops the right to bust balls, waste time, and possibly hand out BS tickets.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Originally Posted by Knipps

to clarify what i said earlier, my feelings are like this

if the driver's weaving/swaying anything out of the ordinary, fine
if it's a checkpoint, fine
if i'm just driving and you feel like pulling me over, that i have a problem with.

i understand driving's a privilege but there should have to be a reason to pull someone over, anyone. not just pulling over some random person to check and see if they're drunk driving.

if they are pulled over with a random car and a drunk driver goes whizzing by what's going to happen? sure they can call it in, but the first officer would have been able to take care of it.

Although around my area most cops are just pains since there is no crime, and they routinely go wayy over the limit and cut people off.

[WildBillyT]

In my opinion, DWI checkpoints are just like the long security line at the airport. You have to sacrifice speed and convenience for a little extra safety. Some people don't have a problem with that, others do.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

No problem w/ it here at all...

[bobb1589]

Originally Posted by procamaroz28

doesnt work like that why should cops be able harass any one for pretty much no reason theyr wasting time b/c mean while there probably is a drunk swerving and about to get into an accident but no the cop wants to be a fag and pull over someone for no real reason which they arent allowed to do

wow... i dont think 5 minutes of your time is that precious that you have to insult them for trying to protect you as well as others out on the road

[procamaroz28]

Originally Posted by 95 red slp

wow... i dont think 5 minutes of your time is that precious that you have to insult them for trying to protect you as well as others out on the road

ur missing the point. they arent protecting anyone if you get pulled over for no reason and they know what they're doing that, they pretty much hope to get lucky and write a few bs tickets, mean while someone is really driving drunk and gets away with it b/c some one completly sober gets pulled over on his way home

[Blacdout96]

Originally Posted by procamaroz28

cops are NOT allowed to do that they cant even give careless or reckless w/ speeding those tickets can only be given alone or with non moving violations otherwise they will be tossed as soon as the judge sees them

Seriously? cause last year I got speeding and careless driving at the same time, so somethings up, anyway Hamilton police are asses, but most cops are cool, as long as your not doing anyhting stupid they shouldnt need to pull you over.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by procamaroz28

cops are NOT allowed to do that they cant even give careless or reckless w/ speeding those tickets can only be given alone or with non moving violations otherwise they will be tossed as soon as the judge sees them

I'd recheck that theory there.

[procamaroz28]

na by law as long a u were only speeding (not changing lanes too) but cop decides to give both speeding and careless the prosecutor must have them emended to either or. usually they keep the speeding