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LTb1ow · 07-31-2008, 04:19 PM

Your killing the glamorous shoot first ask later manta here. But I guess if he really wanted to help out, he should have shoot a warning shot in the air or at least tried to incapacitate them before shooting to kill.

maroman88 · 07-31-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by foff667

Theres never been an occasion where you've dropped your car off at a shop and got a ride home? I know I've done that many times.

but im sure ur neighbors at least kinda know you. if i saw 2 mexicans leaving my neighbors house with crap in there hands and i knew they were on vacation id do the same ****... texas is the most awesome state...!

LTb1ow · 07-31-2008, 04:21 PM

And way to bring in the racial bigotry.

SteveR · 07-31-2008, 04:27 PM

My view is that if you voluntarily choose to commit a crime and put innocent people in danger and have the intent to harm someone, then you just forfeited your human rights and all bets are off for you. If someone catches you and is armed, you die.

LTb1ow · 07-31-2008, 04:28 PM

+1 For vigilantes.

sweetbmxrider · 07-31-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by foff667

Theres never been an occasion where you've dropped your car off at a shop and got a ride home? I know I've done that many times.

i know what you are saying, but no. never.

+2 for vigilance!

LTb1ow · 07-31-2008, 04:34 PM

Vigilance? I said vigilantes, like as in Batman. And if I tried to save my neighbors houses from being robbed with a gun I would chased out of the neighborhood by a torch bearing posse. Damn subrunites..

sweetbmxrider · 07-31-2008, 04:38 PM

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vig·i·lance Audio Help /ˈvɪdʒələns/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[vij-uh-luhns] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. state or quality of being vigilant; watchfulness: Vigilance is required in the event of treachery.
2. Pathology. insomnia.
[Origin: 1560–70; alter. (-ance for -ancy) of obs. vigilancy < L vigilantia; see vigilant, -ancy]

—Synonyms 1. alertness, attention, heedfulness, concern, care.

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vig·i·lan·te Audio Help /ˌvɪdʒəˈlænti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[vij-uh-lan-tee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a member of a vigilance committee.
2. any person who takes the law into his or her own hands, as by avenging a crime.
–adjective
3. done violently and summarily, without recourse to lawful procedures: vigilante justice.
[Origin: 1825–35, Americanism; < Sp: vigilant]

—Related forms
vig·i·lan·te·ism, vig·i·lan·tism Audio Help /ˌvɪdʒəˈlæntɪzəm, ˈvɪdʒələnˌtɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[vij-uh-lan-tiz-uhm, vij-uh-luhn-tiz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, noun

A vigilante would show vigilance in a dire situation.

LTb1ow · 07-31-2008, 04:39 PM

Point taken, but being a vigilante is different, than being aware.

johnjzjz · 07-31-2008, 04:41 PM

if the people who have bleeding hearts were not trying every day of their lives to put an end to the Constitution as it was written - we would all have guns and the bull would be stopped - unless of course your one of them you wont believe it would - jz

sweetbmxrider · 07-31-2008, 04:42 PM

how so? the vigilante was aware of a robbery next door and took an aggressive course

LTb1ow · 07-31-2008, 04:43 PM

Or just a lot of bears with guns.

LTb1ow · 07-31-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

how so? the vigilante was aware of a robbery next door and took an aggressive course

And I would say, being vigilante would be calling 911, which he did, being a vigilante would be taking action into your own hands, which he also did by shooting them.

bubba428 · 07-31-2008, 04:50 PM

um if a person ever tried to rob my house, I would absolutely want somebody to do something about it, not necessarily shoot the guy...I mean I'm all for guns, I love going shooting and I think every one should be educated on how to properly handle a weapon. but I don't think i'd like the idea of my neighbor killing somebody on my property

LTb1ow · 07-31-2008, 04:55 PM

Baseball bats are always useful for other things than baseball....

Mike · 07-31-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shownomercy

Your killing the glamorous shoot first ask later manta here. But I guess if he really wanted to help out, he should have shoot a warning shot in the air or at least tried to incapacitate them before shooting to kill.

a "warning shot in the air" is the WORST possible thing you can do....

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Originally Posted by johnjzjz

if the people who have bleeding hearts were not trying every day of their lives to put an end to the Constitution as it was written - we would all have guns and the bull would be stopped - unless of course your one of them you wont believe it would - jz

ok now everyone has guns, dont forget "everyone" includes the scumbags

LTb1ow · 07-31-2008, 05:09 PM

Warning shot in the air is bad? Can you explain? I would figure that would be better than trying to shoot to incapciatte. Most people wouldn't be able to accurately shoot under stress anyway. At least then they would know you have a gun and perhaps run?

Knipps · 07-31-2008, 05:27 PM

One more thing Anti-Neighbor's house is what if a friend is watching your pets while you're away? The neighbors saw you go in but when they watch you come out and they feel you stole something? Then what happens?

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Originally Posted by Shownomercy

Warning shot in the air is bad? Can you explain? I would figure that would be better than trying to shoot to incapciatte. Most people wouldn't be able to accurately shoot under stress anyway. At least then they would know you have a gun and perhaps run?

That bullets gotta go somewhere. Who knows who you might hit.

KirkEvil · 07-31-2008, 05:29 PM

He should have shot them both in the knees so they could have been deported in wheel chairs.

Mike · 07-31-2008, 05:30 PM

exactly, what goes up must come down, only now its gonna be coming down up to a couple miles away, and yes it can still hit and kill someone, or hit and cause property damage.......yes you are still responsible for it and YES the police can figure out where it came from

LTb1ow · 07-31-2008, 05:30 PM

Then no more running, jumping, and swimming for them.

LTb1ow · 07-31-2008, 05:32 PM

Would be a challenge to find a single .22 bullet a mile and half away.. but I see your point and understand it.

Mike · 07-31-2008, 05:38 PM

if it lands in someones skull or someones window, or windshield and causes a wreck, it would be easy to find

LTb1ow · 07-31-2008, 05:39 PM

Mature thinking strikes again... you make things to serious. But I guess they are. Story awhile back about a clansmen shooting a gun straight up and the bullet coming back down and killing him. So I see your point.

BigAls87Z28 · 07-31-2008, 05:40 PM

A small round like that, coming down would not have enough force to kill you. There is not enough mass in the bullet to do so. going up, yes it is going very fast. Once gravity slows its upward motion, its coming down at 9.8 m/s*2, which with something that light (a bullet) would probably just hurt someone, not kill. A .22 round has about the same mass of a penny, maybe a bit more. Anyone who watched the Mythbusters thing on the penny off the empire state building saw that the penny could not generate enough force to even break skin. Now something like a bullet that is a bit more aerodynamic might at best leave a little bruise, it sure as hell wont kill you.

I support the 2nd amendment, but things like this need to be taken in a case by case thing. By law, he was in the clear, but morals are a totaly different thing. On one end, there are people who dont think anything of it, on the other end you have people who wish all guns were destroyed because they can only bring harm.
I was brought up to handle firearms with respect, and understand that this is a weapon of death, and that if used incorrectly will harm someone, most likely myself.