Man Beaten To Death On Video In 1984.....Should They Prosecute Now?? **NSFW GRAPHIC**

[73fbody]

Wow, they should all be so proud of themselves for that. Such big, powerful fighters... NOT!

The so called black belt marine should definitely be hit with murder and everyone there accessories to murder as they were all enablers.

Very sad.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by 1972LT1

Not to sound cruel but this was a skilled/trained fighter vs.

Honestly I wouldnt even call that dude a black belt. In all honesty almost anyone could injure someone to that point when they are down and "out"

Originally Posted by 98CamaroSS

They should all get prosecuted. You just don't stand there while someone is getting killed and don't do nothing about it. They're all guilty of hiding the crime, but the guy in white should definately be up for murder and the Dojo master too.

I think this says it all.

Originally Posted by jims69camaro

were they (the "marine" and the dojo owner) guilty of murder? no, but the guy later died from his injuries, so you have to convict on that fact alone. they could have called the police. they could have called an ambulance after the beat down. hell, they could have done something (how many people were in the room?) but no one did anything after he was down and beaten some more.

I honestly cant believe you believe this based on your other comments here The mere fact that the drug him out still living and only wanted to cover it up shows that they KNEW they were guilty and knew what was going to happen to him.

Originally Posted by 73fbody

The so called black belt marine should definitely be hit with murder and everyone there accessories to murder as they were all enablers.

QFT

[btownws6]

yea this is horrible i say get the bastards and let all rot especially the bystanders i don't care who you are you don't let something like that go on. and placing him in the dumpster just shows they wanted him to suffer i hope they get what they deserve

[69BirdX]

All I can say is wow. It doesnt take a genious to know if yu kick stomp om a guys neck it will kill him. I hope they rot in jail. Its sad they didnt for the last 20 years

[98tadriver]

Ill watch the video of that guy jumping off a bridge and rip his face off and will not phase me. but this video really bothers me. you could hear the special ed guy telling the black belt "ok you got me" or something along those lines, letting him know he was done fighting, yet that black belt continued to beat on that poor guy even after he was out cold. they definately shouldve called an ambulance for him even though that man was so brutally beaten, i dont think he couldve survived, even with medical attention. the fact that they drug him outside and put him in a dumpster was a feeble attempt to hide what happened and it's admission of guilt right there. I really hope they all get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. the black belt and anyone involved should get life behind bars without parole, so they can suffer and have plenty of time to think about what they did

[bubba428]

hmmm i find this very interesting. I notice how every one is saying prosecute, these are horrible people. however if there was a thread about a guy (baring the possible mental issues) who was repeatedly causing a nuisance, and stealing from people, they're would be a decent amount of people saying that he should have his ass kicked for it. I'm not saying its right what they did, because its not. It's just interesting to notice how people react.

[Knipps]

nobody would be saying he should be beat to death in some shady alley, but he would need to be dealt with

[NastyEllEssWon]

well once you kick someones ass and theyre on the ground yelling i quit you should have the respect enough to not stomp on their face a few times.


nuisance doesnt deserve death

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by bubba428

hmmm i find this very interesting. I notice how every one is saying prosecute, these are horrible people. however if there was a thread about a guy (baring the possible mental issues) who was repeatedly causing a nuisance, and stealing from people, they're would be a decent amount of people saying that he should have his ass kicked for it. I'm not saying its right what they did, because its not. It's just interesting to notice how people react.

He should not have his ass kicked, at least by the general populace. He should get dragged away in a squad car.

[69BirdX]

Originally Posted by bubba428

hmmm i find this very interesting. I notice how every one is saying prosecute, these are horrible people. however if there was a thread about a guy (baring the possible mental issues) who was repeatedly causing a nuisance, and stealing from people, they're would be a decent amount of people saying that he should have his ass kicked for it. I'm not saying its right what they did, because its not. It's just interesting to notice how people react.

you call 911

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

I honestly cant believe you believe this based on your other comments here The mere fact that the drug him out still living and only wanted to cover it up shows that they KNEW they were guilty and knew what was going to happen to him.

true. that part of it, where i said "no", was part of the buildup to the fact that they were, in fact, guilty of murder. if they had just beat the guy down, then no, they would only be guilty of aggravated assault. aggravating factors: the guy fell and he was repeatedly bashed against the wall, kicked and punched. but the guy died from his injuries, so that's when the prosecutor jumps the charge from AA to M2, with the possibility for M1. i think M2, though, as they recklessly endangered the bum and caused his death. well, that's for the prosecutor to decide, anyway. then the jury gets their charge from the judge and he'll explain the intricacies of each level of murder and the fact that they, the jury, have to decide on which level those morons are guilty.

so, if you take it out of context, it looks like i am almost standing up for the "marine" and the dojo owner. i was not, as you can clearly see now.

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by bubba428

hmmm i find this very interesting. I notice how every one is saying prosecute, these are horrible people. however if there was a thread about a guy (baring the possible mental issues) who was repeatedly causing a nuisance...

i used that exact word: nuisance. and don't beat on a guy just because he is a nuisance. call 911. they are trained to handle situations like this.

[chemicalstylez]

Ugh like that last foot stomp wasn't needed it was already over.... that video was just sad....i hope to god they find that guy and those morons watching. ugh.. just a disgrace.

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by chemicalstylez

just a disgrace.

he disgraced his dojo. he disgraced the marines. anyone (without any type of training) watching that video will think poorly of karate dojos in general and marines in particular. it will have more effect, reaching more people, than they originally thought.

one thing i can't understand: how'd they "find" the video without finding the perpetrator? surely anyone who had that video in their collection was either there that day or knows someone personally who was there that day. i doubt seriously it would be that hard to locate all of the people there that day and charge them all as accessories to murder. tell me that wouldn't get someone's vocal cords humming to say where the "marine" and the dojo owner are... not to mention the people who carried him outside and put him in the dumpster.

[98tadriver]

Originally Posted by bubba428

hmmm i find this very interesting. I notice how every one is saying prosecute, these are horrible people. however if there was a thread about a guy (baring the possible mental issues) who was repeatedly causing a nuisance, and stealing from people, they're would be a decent amount of people saying that he should have his ass kicked for it. I'm not saying its right what they did, because its not. It's just interesting to notice how people react.

no man deserves to be beaten to death because he's a nuisance. simply call the police and let the authorities handle it

[mc73nova]

WOW, that is just terrible. You all got it covered but I hope they catch the prick. What kind of people are they to just watch that happen and they kept filming like eveything was cool. Pathetic human beings.

[Miles]

Sadly this is the world we live in. And it's not getting any better.

[12secondv6]

I think any person doing this to another is completely unacceptable and should be put to death.

While I can understand that it may be annoying to have someone come into your place of business and insult you, and you want to do something about it..... just call the police. Police are here to protect - there is no reason to become judge, jury and excecutioner.

Or maybe, just do some sparing and in the end, both the individual and the dojo people may reach a better understanding of each other.

People who have recieved some type of formal physical training (military, police, karate, etc) have more responsibility and should be prosecuted even further than the regular joe.

I think we live in a world that is too weak. What occured on the video is COMPLETELY unnacceptable. This person should be killed and it be public. Too many people feel they can get away with anything.... we are too leniant. I'm a big fan of the death penalty.... I want it more public so it prevents people doing stupid ***** like that.