Do you think seat belts save lives?

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by baddest434

i think seat belts save more lives, then cause deaths. i wear it as does anyone who rides with me.

wearing a 5 point harness makes me feel even more safer.

5 pts are safer, unless you do this:

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

5 pts are safer, unless you do this:

Safer if installed correctly (as you noted) and in conjunction with a cage. W/O a cage they maybe be quite the detriment in a rollover.

[FIcamaroRE92]

they save lives.
as a firefighter (most do) I carry a seat belt knife which cuts it in like a hot knife through butter.

[V]

ive seen a 2 or 3 accidents where the lack of using seatbelts saved the drivers life, but yes those are rare. One was my friends 91 dodge daytona, T-boned in the drivers side by some lady doing 50mph through a stop sign. the daytonas driver door was pushed to the center of the car and my friend who was 5"2" was thrown into the passenger seat where he just got a concussion. the drivers seat was crushed to about 4" wide.

personally i always wear my seatbelt, it my SS its one less thing to get hassled about and in my sky.. i dunno i just do. I used to not wear seatbelts ever but in the past 4-5 years unknowingly i started. Id like 5points in my SS but not sure which ones to choose and mount them properly to my roll bar and to the floor, gotta look into that.

Not really related and a lil off topic, .....As for at work here, if you dont wear it, your just stupid. I wear a harness with a 5point type of camlock and then thats all connected to the floor by means of another strap with a quick release. We are all issued seatbelt cutters too which i wear on the front of my vest. Now true... we dont worry about accidents, our trucks would crush anythign here and it would feel like a speed bump to us, but when we took an IED, that belt kept me in the truck and everyone else from flying around. Other cases here not so good. You talk about people getting ejected in car acidents through the front windsheild... now imagine the force to eject a person who DID have their seatbelt on through 3" think bullet proof glass.

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by Miles

Very true about the knife. More people should do it, but it will probably be used in the wrong way at somepoint.

they sell a special tool that has a hammer head (for breaking your window to escape) and a very sharp razor set inside of it (like a letter opener). i've not seen prices, i just know someone got one for a gift a few christmases ago. they haven't had to use it, so i don't know how well it works. it seems like a very sturdy piece and looks as if it would work if you had your wits about you. you're in trouble no matter what if you get knocked on the noodle and are dizzy.

and, no, i'll pass on the change. people seem to be responding well to the way it is worded. thanks, tho.

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by BurninrubberGT

my buddy was tboned at ~60mph on his side last year....there was no way he would have lived if he didnt have his belt on

maybe i am not imagining this accident properly. if he was hit on his side, and the car was doing +/- 60 mph, how did his seatbelt have anything to do with him surviving? as i see it, it held him in place while the other car did the damage to his door, maybe pushing the door in quite a bit, and the deathbelt did what, exactly?

in newer cars, seatbelt technology is improving. that is why i voted 'yes'. older cars with just a lap belt or the older style shoulder belts do almost nothing to protect you and everything to cause injuries. those with older cars know what i mean. i have yet to use the seat belt in the '69. knock on wood, no accidents yet with it, and hope i never do, but i won't be injured by the seatbelt.

[Miles]

Originally Posted by jims69camaro

they sell a special tool that has a hammer head (for breaking your window to escape) and a very sharp razor set inside of it (like a letter opener). i've not seen prices, i just know someone got one for a gift a few christmases ago. they haven't had to use it, so i don't know how well it works. it seems like a very sturdy piece and looks as if it would work if you had your wits about you. you're in trouble no matter what if you get knocked on the noodle and are dizzy.

Yeah I have seen it as well. Seems to serve its purpose, have yet to see someone use it in action though.

[Squirrel]

i went from 30 to 0 instantaneously in my old TA and i walked out without a scratch on my body except for a burn from the airbag on the inside of my forearm, the airbag hitting my face hurt more than the seatbelt locking

[91chevywt]

Theres instances where seatbelts can save lives and vice versa, I usually wear mine myself. Only thing is, the state shouldn't ticket you when not wearing a seatbelt in my opinion. Should be a choice. But thats a whole different can of worms.

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by Squirrel

i went from 30 to 0 instantaneously in my old TA and i walked out without a scratch on my body except for a burn from the airbag on the inside of my forearm, the airbag hitting my face hurt more than the seatbelt locking

kinda same thing with my camaro, except i was going 20 or 25

[miketa95]

Originally Posted by Miles

Okay well once you get out of that seatbelt, you need to open the door. How about those automatic locks?

I was thinking the same. I hate how my truck does that, and I wish there was a way to turn it off. I do know a story of someone surviving only because of not wearing the seat belt, but that was a low speed, single car, freak accident. In any normal driving type of crash, I think a seat belt would save a life 9 times out of ten.

[NJ Torque]

Yes, I wear mine.

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by miketa95

I was thinking the same. I hate how my truck does that, and I wish there was a way to turn it off. I do know a story of someone surviving only because of not wearing the seat belt, but that was a low speed, single car, freak accident. In any normal driving type of crash, I think a seat belt would save a life 999,999 times out of 1,000,000.

Fixed

In most cars can't you program out the auto locks? I'm pretty sure the owners manual for my olds shows how.

[bubba428]

I only say no only because in my accident. if I had been wearing my seat belt, it would have broken my neck. granted 90% of the time seat belts do save lives, I just don't feel safe wearing one being that most seats are designed for the average height person. When I wear a seat belt it tends to ride along my neck because of that. just my opinion.

[BonzoHansen]

So you disagree that seat belts save lives even though you say 90% of the time seat belts do save lives? How is it you determined you would have broken your neck?

Newer cars all seem to have adjustable belts now. Are you short?

[Miles]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Fixed

In most cars can't you program out the auto locks? I'm pretty sure the owners manual for my olds shows how.

In some cars from a couple years ago you were able to completely shut them off. In my 07 Tahoe I was only able to change when they lock (when shifted from park or after 15mph).

[miketa95]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Fixed

In most cars can't you program out the auto locks? I'm pretty sure the owners manual for my olds shows how.

Idk if its possible. My car didn't come with an owners manual and I've never seen anything when messing with the buttons.

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Are you short?

I am.... should I not wear seatbelts? most fit fine on me

[LTb1ow]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

I am.... should I not wear seatbelts? most fit fine on me

Well yea, I guess you rock one of these?

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

I am.... should I not wear seatbelts? most fit fine on me

I think so. I'm just trying to figure out why bubba's tend to ride along his neck?

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by jims69camaro

maybe i am not imagining this accident properly. if he was hit on his side, and the car was doing +/- 60 mph, how did his seatbelt have anything to do with him surviving? as i see it, it held him in place while the other car did the damage to his door, maybe pushing the door in quite a bit, and the deathbelt did what, exactly?

in newer cars, seatbelt technology is improving. that is why i voted 'yes'. older cars with just a lap belt or the older style shoulder belts do almost nothing to protect you and everything to cause injuries. those with older cars know what i mean. i have yet to use the seat belt in the '69. knock on wood, no accidents yet with it, and hope i never do, but i won't be injured by the seatbelt.

Absolutely. The Nova only has lap belts up front... unsettling especially with no air bags, either.

Originally Posted by 91chevywt

Theres instances where seatbelts can save lives and vice versa, I usually wear mine myself. Only thing is, the state shouldn't ticket you when not wearing a seatbelt in my opinion. Should be a choice. But thats a whole different can of worms.

If the state wasn't required to pay for medical care/clean up after people who don't use their belt then I'd agree with you. But as it is now, we all pay if a dumb **** gets busted up for not using his or her belt.

Originally Posted by bubba428

I only say no only because in my accident. if I had been wearing my seat belt, it would have broken my neck. granted 90% of the time seat belts do save lives, I just don't feel safe wearing one being that most seats are designed for the average height person. When I wear a seat belt it tends to ride along my neck because of that. just my opinion.

I am 6' 3" and have never had this issue. How tall are you?

[BonzoHansen]

Billy I beleive you can get 3 points for your car. I know I can for my 67.

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Billy I beleive you can get 3 points for your car. I know I can for my 67.

I am absolutely doing so. No way am I keeping the lap belts only. I'm probably going to do LED taillights as well, since they are a little "small" for today's drivers.

[sweetbmxrider]

i notice in alot of cars around here, people have the hammers to break the glass out.

i always wear a seatbelt. always.

[Scrat's_Camaro]

i wear mine, saved my ass twice. once on a passenger side impact and one head on.