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I just wanna know the specs of the camshaft that it came with.
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yes im thinking that ,,, i to more work to this car, but one the money and two,, not sure if my ideas will work... i want to go with 383 stroker kit and 3:73 gears with 12 bolt ... i know iknow i need to use strange, but i dont think i want too... trying to get hopefuly 450 475 hp at the wheels also was looking at 383 supercharged  its starting to get upsetting cause ... i feel like my car sucks
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01-08-2012, 08:40 PM
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yes im thinking that ,,, i to more work to this car, but one the money and two,, not sure if my ideas will work... i want to go with 383 stroker kit and 3:73 gears with 12 bolt ... i know iknow i need to use strange, but i dont think i want too... trying to get hopefuly 450 475 hp at the wheels also was looking at 383 supercharged  its starting to get upsetting cause ... i feel like my car sucks 
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I can steer you in the right direction for mods to give you the hp you want... you just have to ask, then listen, then follow through.
There is a million parts out there that say hp this and hp that. but you need to pick the correct part combos to give you the results your looking for.
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I never pulled into the staging beams at the track and saw a dyno in the other lane.
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01-08-2012, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER
I can steer you in the right direction for mods to give you the hp you want... you just have to ask, then listen, then follow through.
There is a million parts out there that say hp this and hp that. but you need to pick the correct part combos to give you the results your looking for.
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ok im listening
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01-08-2012, 08:51 PM
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ok im listening
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pm me your:
hp goals
track time goals
how "streetable" you want the car to be.
give me a list of existing mods
and I'll give you a run down of what you need to buy and do.
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I never pulled into the staging beams at the track and saw a dyno in the other lane.
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01-08-2012, 09:05 PM
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i did
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01-08-2012, 09:09 PM
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It's a pretty small cam.
212 / 218 .558 / .563 @ 115
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Exactly what I was thinking. If they picked the cam and you said that you wanted a "wicked evil street car" then they are pretty dumb. I know that that shop deals mainly with older muscle cars. That means old school mentality. To them that cam probably seems a lot bigger than it really is...
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01-08-2012, 09:14 PM
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yea so its back to the drawing board,, i just wish i didnt spend all that money
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01-08-2012, 09:17 PM
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Exactly what I was thinking. If they picked the cam and you said that you wanted a "wicked evil street car" then they are pretty dumb. I know that that shop deals mainly with older muscle cars. That means old school mentality. To them that cam probably seems a lot bigger than it really is...
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FWIW my Nova's cam is pretty mild and it's 224/230 @ .050
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01-08-2012, 09:18 PM
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yea so its back to the drawing board,, i just wish i didnt spend all that money
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This is why you do tons of research before spending any money. Bringing it to a shop (especially one that doesnt specialize in late model motors) usually wont have as good of a result. If you want that shop to do the work on the car, thats fine. But if I were you I would supply them with all of the parts.
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01-08-2012, 09:24 PM
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yea so now im f@#$%ed cause i spent all that money, and i have to rebuild the thing all over and i dont have the cash so i guess it will sit for awhile
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01-08-2012, 09:25 PM
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yea so now im f@#$%ed cause i spent all that money, and i have to rebuild the thing all over and i dont have the cash so i guess it will sit for awhile
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Your money was not spent in vain. There are way worse things that could happen. Just stick around and ask some questions about your next mods 
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01-08-2012, 09:30 PM
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yes im thinking that ,,, i to more work to this car, but one the money and two,, not sure if my ideas will work... i want to go with 383 stroker kit and 3:73 gears with 12 bolt ... i know iknow i need to use strange, but i dont think i want too... trying to get hopefuly 450 475 hp at the wheels also was looking at 383 supercharged  its starting to get upsetting cause ... i feel like my car sucks 
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Thats easy with an m6.. Id go 11.5 to 1 comp , 248/248 cam around 630 lift , with a good set of heads should be low 500s , Should be 470ish with an auto
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01-08-2012, 09:46 PM
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ill stick around np just got to wait for money to build up again its slower for me in the winter not as much cash flow
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01-08-2012, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28
Thats easy with an m6.. Id go 11.5 to 1 comp , 248/248 cam around 630 lift , with a good set of heads should be low 500s , Should be 470ish with an auto
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ill just have to wait thanks
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01-08-2012, 09:57 PM
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If your going to do a new motor do a .402/408
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01-08-2012, 10:03 PM
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If your going to do a new motor do a .402/408
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how much do you think that would cost and what work does that entail
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01-08-2012, 11:11 PM
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I would enjoy the car still and just wait and save and when the time comes modify it.
408 and forced induction are on my current wishlist. . . just a matter of when
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01-08-2012, 11:42 PM
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pm sent
stock block/pistons w/what I suggested will give you what your looking for.
I'm not knocking Charlie, just the expense of a 402/408 isn't really justified unless you plan on going F.I. or on the bottle, as the stock short block can hold 500+ w/out a problem
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I never pulled into the staging beams at the track and saw a dyno in the other lane.
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01-10-2012, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER
pm sent
stock block/pistons w/what I suggested will give you what your looking for.
I'm not knocking Charlie, just the expense of a 402/408 isn't really justified unless you plan on going F.I. or on the bottle, as the stock short block can hold 500+ w/out a problem
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475rwhp threw an auto on stock ci will not be very well street mannered. You can build a 408 and make 500rwhp and still drive very well. Stock CI has its limitations.
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01-10-2012, 07:54 PM
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how much do you think that would cost and what work does that entail
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Depends on how crazy you go and what you want to do for cylinder heads
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01-10-2012, 10:00 PM
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475rwhp threw an auto on stock ci will not be very well street mannered. You can build a 408 and make 500rwhp and still drive very well. Stock CI has its limitations.
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Not that true. Kirk puts down almost 460 thru his stalled auto on a stock bottom end, runs 10s, and drives the car on the street no problem...
Guess it depends on you opinion on street manners though. It varies for different people...
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01-10-2012, 10:25 PM
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Not that true. Kirk puts down almost 460 thru his stalled auto on a stock bottom end, runs 10s, and drives the car on the street no problem...
Guess it depends on you opinion on street manners though. It varies for different people...
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^^^^I agree^^^^
also proven 525hp+ @ flywheel (roughly 430-440rwhp) using TFS heads/cam combo which has decent street manners with it tuned properly.
I've also put down 442rwhp with cnc'd heads w/ms3 cam 3800 stall/12bolt and I drove it everywhere without any serious drivability issues.
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01-11-2012, 12:04 AM
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Since this turned to motor talk how much power can the stock crank take? I want to build a shortblock using an iron block, I plan on 440ish n/a and spray a 200 shot if I go this route.
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01-11-2012, 12:05 AM
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In the ballpark of a setup you would like.
http://guerragroup.com/2000TA.htm
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