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You realize he meant not use the cam because it was too big, right?
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Seems rather arbitrary either way as worded. Regardless, my post still stands, don't over cam.
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02-24-2014, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Seems rather arbitrary either way as worded. Regardless, my post still stands, don't over cam.
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Yes, don't over cam. 
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02-24-2014, 10:52 AM
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As I said, cam is staying with him (unless it is too cheap to leave, in which case I will have an xfi 292 cam fs/t). My plan is to try and find as many "hard parts" as I can used (rear axle, head, exhaust ... stuff that is pricey new and cheap used). After all if I told you that you can spend $3000 or $1000 on parts which would you choose? Worth the drive (6hrs) or not? Gonna see if I can bribe Wayne with Headwinds Motors (he has a 8-second lt1 up there, and built the motor for a 7-second falcon) to at least help me make sure this isn't a stock head that someone is trying to pass for being ported/polished. But could I reasonably build a sbc 350/355 hc setup with that head or is it too big? Don't want to get stuck with a setup I cannot possibly use.
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02-24-2014, 11:40 AM
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What heads? Any lt1 heads you can get on the cheap side won't be too much head for you so long as someone didn't hog it out on you. That's why I asked intake runner and combustion chamber size. You could slap it all together and hope it runs decent too.
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02-24-2014, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mulletbird
As I said, cam is staying with him (unless it is too cheap to leave, in which case I will have an xfi 292 cam fs/t). My plan is to try and find as many "hard parts" as I can used (rear axle, head, exhaust ... stuff that is pricey new and cheap used). After all if I told you that you can spend $3000 or $1000 on parts which would you choose? Worth the drive (6hrs) or not? Gonna see if I can bribe Wayne with Headwinds Motors (he has a 8-second lt1 up there, and built the motor for a 7-second falcon) to at least help me make sure this isn't a stock head that someone is trying to pass for being ported/polished. But could I reasonably build a sbc 350/355 hc setup with that head or is it too big? Don't want to get stuck with a setup I cannot possibly use.
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Head specs would be nice if the guy has them as there's a lot of variance in port jobs.
You don't want a set of these, even though they are "ported"
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02-24-2014, 04:15 PM
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he didn't have specs, other than the 185"cc". I will watch for that thin of a wall thickness, and waiting now for my friend up there to get back on how they looked.
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02-25-2014, 07:01 AM
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Measure the combustion chambers.
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03-04-2014, 04:47 AM
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update ... got an lt1 block with 85k, 10k since rebuild; scat forged crank, new srp pistons (guy bought them then built a turbo block with another core and crank), plus a spare set of stock pistons and rods from a guy on ls1tech in wisconsin for $400, and lloyd elliott intake, and 1.6 rockers from another guy for $200, any opinions on a cam for this? Also would you say the afe heads from summit in akron are worth it? Anything else (oh I will go with a larger tb). I will take it all to.a machine shop to get checked.
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03-04-2014, 07:17 AM
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What crank, rods, pistons, bore, how far is the piston in the hole? What work was done to the block?
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03-04-2014, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mulletbird
update ... got an lt1 block with 85k, 10k since rebuild; scat forged crank, new srp pistons (guy bought them then built a turbo block with another core and crank), plus a spare set of stock pistons and rods from a guy on ls1tech in wisconsin for $400, and lloyd elliott intake, and 1.6 rockers from another guy for $200, any opinions on a cam for this? Also would you say the afe heads from summit in akron are worth it? Anything else (oh I will go with a larger tb). I will take it all to.a machine shop to get checked.
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Without numbers on any of the parts it's a a jumbled mess. At a MINIMUM you need to know what pistons you are working with.
There is not enough data to be able to start selecting a cam.
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03-04-2014, 08:23 AM
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GM847 is the bestest cam eva.
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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03-04-2014, 08:28 AM
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GM847 is the bestest cam eva.
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Pfft, SR is betta!
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03-14-2014, 04:40 AM
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Update: bought so far...
LE 230/236 cam (came with motor)
SRP dome pistons (pre 04)
Manley rods (will find out i or h soon)
New 10000mi block (since rebuild)
Scat 4340 crank
spare stock rot assy
comp lifters
comp 1.6:1 roller rockers
arp studs
bbk 58mm throttle body (summit clearance)
new pressure plate (summit clearance)
new trickflow genx 185 heads (summit clearance)
also got a new engine stand (rotating) at summit on clearance. Sure am glad I blew the starter there in tallmadge, OH just to give me an excuse. Botyom end parts were bought outside oshcosh, WI for $450 (we agreed to 400 but the SOB raised the price after I drove up).
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03-14-2014, 04:43 AM
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*bottom
oh the engine stand cost $10. I grabbed it before the guy even got it off the cart, turn around, and five guys standing back there wanting it...
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03-14-2014, 06:00 AM
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Do you plan on having any work done to the heads?
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03-14-2014, 08:28 AM
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You do plan on having work done to the heads, right?
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What you should have said! 
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03-14-2014, 08:36 AM
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Comp R lifters???
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03-14-2014, 08:42 AM
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Good edit!
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Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Comp R lifters???
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Some men like to live dangerously. I feel like I haven't heard about those in years.
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03-14-2014, 09:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mulletbird
Update: bought so far...
LE 230/236 cam (came with motor)
SRP dome pistons (pre 04)
Manley rods (will find out i or h soon)
New 10000mi block (since rebuild)
Scat 4340 crank
spare stock rot assy
comp lifters
comp 1.6:1 roller rockers
arp studs
bbk 58mm throttle body (summit clearance)
new pressure plate (summit clearance)
new trickflow genx 185 heads (summit clearance)
also got a new engine stand (rotating) at summit on clearance. Sure am glad I blew the starter there in tallmadge, OH just to give me an excuse. Botyom end parts were bought outside oshcosh, WI for $450 (we agreed to 400 but the SOB raised the price after I drove up).
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Was the piston/rod/crank combo already run by somebody?
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