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02-08-2005, 08:35 PM
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Rules do 2 things. They keep things competive and they keep everybody safe. Having a car that runs on 3 wires with junkyard parts seems a tad more dangerous than a street legal car missing carpet and a passenger seat. Or am I missing something here? What is the competition we're talking about here and where are the rules because right now I'm scratching my head trying to understand.
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look at my trucck it runs on three wires whats wrong with that
its not like it gonna be held together by two by fours
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02-08-2005, 10:31 PM
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liz, i don't know how to get it through to phil, matt, or ty that this isn't a test adn tune. these are competitive classes. to have competiton and keep it fair to all involved you need rules.
if they are interested in diving into competition and makign anything worth whiel happen they really need to look further into competition than jsut saying they want to be in one.
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02-10-2005, 04:25 PM
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well...we have a mids 80s 2.8l third gen camaro, pontiac 350, with nice heads, and a turbo 350 trans w/ shift kit, gallon of orange centari paint, cragar ss/t wheels, and a load of ambition....f-body nats..here we come. its a 70s poncho motor, aluminum intake, and a CARBURETOR !
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02-11-2005, 11:02 AM
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a mids 80s 2.8l third gen camaro, pontiac 350
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02-11-2005, 11:48 AM
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Only this time...its the other way around.
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02-11-2005, 02:04 PM
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third gen camaro, pontiac 350
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this is the first time i have seen a car go bastard that way. it is almost always replacign teh drivetrain in a real pontiac with a chevy motor, not the other way around.
congrats matt, you are original and weird. lol
poncho motors have great low end power, shoudl be fun to watch this thing come off teh line
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02-11-2005, 02:11 PM
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poncho motors have great low end power, shoudl be fun to watch this thing come off teh line
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Think he'll toss the hoosiers on the SS/T's? They guys could give a demonstration on how to shatter a 10-bolt
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02-11-2005, 02:28 PM
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hmm, maybe a $50 set of junkyard 3.73's can add to the fun as well 
why bother setting lash, on the third launch it will just set itself. lol
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02-11-2005, 04:06 PM
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nice
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02-11-2005, 04:22 PM
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well bad news....we might need to look for another car right now...robs dick boss dosnt wanna sell the car without a title....were workin on it though...anone have a camaro or firebird with no motor or trans in just ok shape they wanna sell for real cheap ???
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02-11-2005, 04:48 PM
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napolean(sp?) doesn't have anything laying around?
i will keep an eye out for you. i may know of a car, but most rollers go for a good bit more than the $50 you were gonna pay. expect 200-400 to be more common pricing.
wanna take a cruise to teh yards in the monring? maybe they have something there that will fit the bill
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02-11-2005, 04:56 PM
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im down for junkyardin it...me and phil gata pick up the motor first though
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02-11-2005, 08:03 PM
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well i pulled a muscle in my shoulder real bad so im not gonna do any heavy lifting but i wanna get the motor early and head right to the yard i guess, go scope some things out i found a car but its beet up and needs to many things like a hatch and i think a front sub frame but its free oh yea tim it has a factory fiberglass hood
i can get the back lash and run out close enough to what is supposed to be thats no problem i just need to find my dial indicator and a work bench to do it on. but the blazers came with 3:73 10 bolts in them if its not a posi ill make it one. "linclon locker" lincoln arc weld the spyders together
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02-11-2005, 08:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
poncho motors have great low end power, shoudl be fun to watch this thing come off teh line
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the tranny we picked up for it has the grunt to do it, with a 3500 stall converter he has for it. that thing is gonna be all about the launch
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02-11-2005, 10:53 PM
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Sounds like things are actually rolling together into something tangible.
What extension housing do you have on the th350? If you want to use a stock 3rd gen driveshaft you'll need to use the 9". If you have access to a driveshaft shop then ignore me  .
Just curious, why the poncho motor? You could sell it and do a homebrew junkyard wars style 350... then the trans wouldn't bolt up, hmm... nevermind, I'm just interested so keep the updates coming.
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02-12-2005, 05:28 PM
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hmmm...why the poncho motor..the idea behind that is ..dare to be different..i do have the adapter plate to put a chevy trans on a pontiac block but i got the good tranny with it so i couldnt complain
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02-12-2005, 05:50 PM
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hmmm...why the poncho motor..the idea behind that is ..dare to be different..i do have the adapter plate to put a chevy trans on a pontiac block but i got the good tranny with it so i couldnt complain
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So why not get a used cheap gutted Firebird instead of a camaro  . Then you won't be a bastard, you'd just be making a statement :P . Not that it really matters but I can honestly say I haven't seen a thirdgen firebird with a poncho motor!
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02-12-2005, 06:01 PM
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camaros are lighter
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02-12-2005, 06:48 PM
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Always thought third gen fbirds are lighter, but you will have more hood clearance with the Camaro.
Gotta find that 1982 Iron Duke, 4spd manual, no options Camaro out in the world...
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02-12-2005, 06:56 PM
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i like the bastard idea with the camaro.
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02-12-2005, 08:01 PM
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Quote:
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Always thought third gen fbirds are lighter, but you will have more hood clearance with the Camaro. Â*
Gotta find that 1982 Iron Duke, 4spd manual, no options Camaro out in the world...
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i know where there are 2 birds that meet that basic description. 
actually a later car woudl be better. gm switched to thinner floor steel and some point adn started using more glue and less panel overlap = lighter car
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02-12-2005, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Always thought third gen fbirds are lighter, but you will have more hood clearance with the Camaro.
Gotta find that 1982 Iron Duke, 4spd manual, no options Camaro out in the world...
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i know where there are 2 birds that meet that basic description. 
actually a later car woudl be better. gm switched to thinner floor steel and some point adn started using more glue and less panel overlap = lighter car
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Yeah, my car is one of the quietest thirdgens as far as rattles but the floor pan is rotting out. I also added a stereo and the car's weight was only 3550 with me, that was with a/c and beefy suspension upgrades. The only weight reduction I had done to my car at the time was a hollow sway bar up front. Everything else I did added weight. Now's a different story.
Anyways, I'd still go for an earlier thirdgen because it'll be closer to the 25yr "classic". I've always seen a thirdgens in the j-yards when I've gone. I need to make a trip again to see the new stock. 2 years ago I found an awesome roller thirdgen. It was a firebird with 6-point cage and a Ford 12-bolt minus carrier but had axles and c-clip eliminators all intact. If I had room for it I'd have bought it, oh well.
How much are you guys looking to spend on the roller car? And do you need a clean title or is a salvage yard title cool? Do you even need a title if it's a track only car?
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02-13-2005, 05:08 PM
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i would like to have a clean title..cause if this **** box turns out good...me and phil will beat it on the street too and tim...i dont give to ****s about weight....u know this
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02-13-2005, 05:10 PM
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all i say is to drop it off over here for a few days and when you pick it up you will have a much faster car. 
i may have teh inside line on some 3.73's for ya if yer interested. that will help teh car a lot
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02-13-2005, 06:30 PM
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all i say is to drop it off over here for a few days and when you pick it up you will have a much faster car. 
i may have teh inside line on some 3.73's for ya if yer interested. that will help teh car a lot
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work on your car first.
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