f150 lightning

[FIcamaroRE92]

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Regardless, the 6.7s are garbage with all the new emissions controls on them. People are taking them back to dealers for warranty work like crazy....

- Justin

Agreed my friend encountered alot of problems with it, Wasn't even thinking about that when I first recommended it lol

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

this thread is about a truck, its not about crying that a dependent college student should move out of his house...

so i would be the first to hijack a thread?

yeah, i seem to have zero tolerance for ********. it's not a new occurrence, it's been that way all of my life. btw, the small print didn't say anything about rent. rent is a waste of time, and you might as well stay where you are and pay your parents the rent so that at least someone is benefiting from it. i said get a place, house, whatever. don't rent unless you absolutely have to.

while the OP stated that he needs a truck for his business, there are so many underlying issues as to why he needs it. he's starting a business, which i think is something everyone should do just to see if they have the aptitude for it. not everyone can be successful on their own. then again, not everyone has the ability to even think about a business, they get so caught up in chasing the weekly paycheck.

as to why should you move out if you don't know if there will be a paycheck - i know things haven't changed that much since i struck out on my own. you do what you have to in order to get by in the lean times and bank it in the plentiful times. you do whatever you have to to make sure there is a weekly paycheck, even if that means working extra hours at your first job or getting a second job... i've had many second jobs trying to bring in enough to make sure that my family was taken care of. we've always been comfortable because i was always on the lookout for a better opportunity or a way to make a coupla extra bucks.

in my case that didn't include staying with my parents until i was 30. at that point in my life i couldn't afford a sports car, everything had to be about function. i would probably have bought a beater with a solid motor in it to get the job done. but in all reality i probably would have already had that beater, since i didn't have any toys.

as for back surgeries, i feel for you. i have had 5 procedures in the last 10 years, so i know a little something about that. in my case, i was able to depend on my wife to pick up the slack, but she knows a big payday is looming in the near future so she won't have to do it forever, and it's not like i am contributing zero to the situation. my shift will move from making money to how to make my money work for me - but that's another subject entirely.

i think this thread is about a lot more than just needing a truck. it's more about priorities, i think, which the OP is coming around to that fact that right now might not be the best time to have a fast car. he's starting to think dual (or more) purpose, as in he can have a truck for work and it doesn't have to be a basket case.

there are probably more exceptions in this club than anywhere else i have been on the internet. sweeping generalities don't always have a place here, and i apologize for making one. seems i touched a nerve with more than one member, though, so maybe this topic should have its own thread...

[69BirdX]

Lightnings are nasty trucks but bad at towing. My friends dad sold his casue he hated using it for towing. he bought a turbo deseil and likes it so much better. My friend just picked up a 97 dodge 3500 duallie. The thing is nice and will tow anything. Its clean but beatable. If you get a lightning your not gonna want to destroy it like a regular truck.

[BlueGTS]

Jim, I agree with your sentiments 100% but you have to understand that housing over the past 8 years is nothing like it was in the years prior. That is to say pre-2000 you could by a first home at 2x - 3x your yearly income. After 2000 that number has jumped to 4x to 5x your yearly income. The cost of houses now really makes 1st time home buying a challenge. Add to that how much you have to put down now a days and it is a daunting task. With that said, I do agree everyone should jump in as soon as possible as it is the right move.

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by BlueGTS

Jim, I agree with your sentiments 100% but you have to understand that housing over the past 8 years is nothing like it was in the years prior. That is to say pre-2000 you could by a first home at 2x - 3x your yearly income. After 2000 that number has jumped to 4x to 5x your yearly income. The cost of houses now really makes 1st time home buying a challenge. Add to that how much you have to put down now a days and it is a daunting task. With that said, I do agree everyone should jump in as soon as possible as it is the right move.

thank you.

not to beat a dead horse, but if you buy a house and fail it's not like your parents wouldn't help you out down the road. it's taking that first step that will get you down the path...

there are plenty of people who are doing it. hell, if you have to, grab a bunch of your freeloading friends and have them pay you to rent a room while you pay the mortgage. that kills multiple birds with a single rock. that's exactly how i bought my first house.

also, in these trying times, the motivated seller is easier to find. that's the guy who will accept below market for the house just to get out from under it. that's also how you show the bank that you are putting your 20% into it. example, house costs 100k. seller accepts 80k, but all of the paperwork shows you bought the house for 100k. bank cuts the seller a check for 80, he walks away happy and you just got into your first home with zero dollars down. this is how i bought the house i am in right now and the numbers aren't that far off. meanwhile, i refied for a lower rate, lowered the term and put the extra dollars that i saved from the lower rate into the principal every month. instead of a 30 year term, i'll be done in 15 total (only another 6 to go) and while the housing market just took a dump on all of us, my house is still worth more than i paid for it (almost double). this is all current, not 30 years ago (when i was 14, just so you know).

many have said it, but i am not sure they've put it in these terms: while a lightening might be tempting from an enthusiast point of view, you'd be much better off with something more practical for your business. just so we know, is the 16K what you expect to get from your current car? or is it some combination of car sale, savings, etc?

[BlueGTS]

Let me continue to beat the dead horse. Jim your logic is very sound but the market has changed dramatically in the past 8 years. While 100-200k starter homes were available back then they are no where to be found in NNJ today. In fact it is hard to find a livable home for less than 300k. 20% of that is 60k down because I doubt you will be able to get PMI anymore. 60k plus 10k closing costs equals $70,000 in CASH plus a mortgage of around $2000 a month with taxes and insurance. These numbers are drastically higher than they were 6-8 years ago. Once again I believe that getting into a house as soon as possible is the best move anyone can make but I can see how high the hurtle is currently.

Jim you have to also remember that sometimes people need to make mistakes themselves as not everyone wants a house. When I first started working all I wanted was a serious sports car. That was my #1 goal. Stupid yes, but I got that sports car within 6 months of working. If someone at the time would have told me to put my money into a house I would have laughed as that was not my goal.

As for the lightning, I am not sold on the utility of a regular cab truck. How about the SCed Harley extended cab truck?

[Mike]

thats why i havent moved out. when i move out im not going to put myself in a situation where i need a dozen room mates, or where i need to beg for money.

im also not going to buy a house that i wont want in 2 years, which means ill be looking a lot longer than most people

[miketa95]

I have savings I was going to use to make a down payment, then i was hoping to finance it. I figured it would be a step toward building credit for the day I do buy a house, which will be no sooner than the day I finish college.

The harley davidson's are nice, but their usually a lot more than the lightning's from what i've seen. I wouldn't rule one out at the same time. I can get away with a regular cab though because it's just me and my brother. Also, people have me looking at diesels but I haven't seen anything special yet.

And everyone keeps talking about the towing capacity, but a flat single axle landscape trailer really is nothing. I use a 6cyl envoy to pull it now and it pulls it easily, so i'm sure the lightning can too.

[69BirdX]

Im not saying the lightning cant pull it my friends dad used it to pull hiss 66 shelby gt350 in an enclosed trailer. But he hated it for towing

[FIcamaroRE92]

RAM SRT-10 FTW, out of your price range tho.

[NJSPEEDER]

Originally Posted by FIcamaroRE92

RAM SRT-10 FTW, out of your price range tho.

If you get one, get used to buying transmissions. The 6sd in them is the same spec that they put in Vipers that weighed 1500lbs less. No weight over the rear = wheel hop = transgob00m!

They are cool trucks though. I would rock one.

[miketa95]

during my search i found an 02 f150 fx4 4x4 supercab I really like. It's half the price, $8500 with 68,000 miles. Its for sale in philly and this place apparently gives you a 6 month warranty. I'm going to check it out, even though it isn't performance oriented, because its an awesome price.

[FlyingDutchman]

I have a friend whos selling his '99 F350 Super Duty w/ 7.3L T....its got plenty of power considering its chipped...and its on 35in MT wit a 6in lift that might be overkill however
btw it sits 6 comfortably wit a huge bed...askin 10K

[35thls1ss19]

Originally Posted by 97camaro

I have a friend whos selling his '99 F350 Super Duty w/ 7.3L T....its got plenty of power considering its chipped...and its on 35in MT wit a 6in lift that might be overkill however
btw it sits 6 comfortably wit a huge bed...askin 10K

there ya go! i love my psd! what kind of miles on it? sounds like a good price.

[Dark_Knight7096]

Originally Posted by BlueGTS

As for the lightning, I am not sold on the utility of a regular cab truck. How about the SCed Harley extended cab truck?

Having owned a lightning I would probably second this. The regular cab was always kinda small for me. I have hauled and towed stuff before and have had zero problems whatsoever, but the HD f-150s were much better for towing and hauling than the lightnings were. You can fit 4 confortably, 5 if you squeeze the folks in back a bit, and you still have a lot to play with so far as power go. Uses all the same mods as a lightning, just weighs a little more so, all things being equal, you won't be as fast as a lightning, but it may work out better for you.


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Only thing to watch when buying an HD F-150, is they didn't S/C them until 01 or 02, i'm thinking it was '02 though, so be careful of that. They stopped S/Cing them in the '06 model year (first time avail with new body style), but you can get them in AWD/4x4 now, though the '08s in 4x2 you can find the Saleen S/Ced.