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07-14-2012, 05:32 PM
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What about the fitting that goes in between the pan and drain plug?
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Well being that its a gravity drain, I need for the oil to enter the motor at a level higher than the pans standing oil level. If I tried putting it in the pan through the drain plug opening or even the low oil/oil temp sensor holes, it may not drain properly and is known to cause big issues with turbo systems
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07-14-2012, 05:34 PM
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Hmm ok. Cut and weld time. Anything to avoid letting the electrical system control it
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07-14-2012, 08:26 PM
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I looked at the timing cover tonight. It's tight, no real room to put a fitting that I could find yet. The oil pan is a whole different set of issues to get to. In order to remove the Pan, the motor needs to come out or the engine cradle dropped a decent amount. This is not an fbody, so dropping the cradle isnt as simple. I doubt I could even get a drill in place the drill then tap a hole with the pan still on the motor.
Time for some more problem solving thinking....
Edit: looks like i'll be dropping the cradle. That shall take a whole day if not more, at the rate I work on the car lol.
also, perhaps I'll just buy another cts-v oil pan, have a bung welded on that and then drop the old one and right away put the new one in. That way it wont be apart for long, while Id forget how to put it back together. Then I can sell my old one and the new windage tray/pickup tube.
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07-15-2012, 07:07 PM
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No room for something like this?
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07-17-2012, 02:47 PM
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That's how much room I have, not really enough. Due to the vette/cts-v balancer, its tight up close to the block. Best bet would be to tap the pan, either right at the bottom front , or the side. The front I could possibly drill/tap with the pan still on the engine, the side no, Id have to pull it. Im gonna check out a bunch of reviews for the turbo werx pump... might be the most feasible option.
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07-17-2012, 02:57 PM
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Maybe get a bung, flared steel line, a tube nut, and install rubber hose downstream a little? Have it come straight out and then 90*.
This is a pic of a trans teardown and is filthy, but kind of what I mean:
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...-lines-010.jpg
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07-17-2012, 03:07 PM
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Well... the other issue is that to get the drain line just TO that area on the timing cover, I'd have to run the drain line line down, under the supercharger, than back up 1-2 inches, so it totally negates the use of a gravity drain.
Its either into the pan, or a scavenge pump.
Edit: I think Ive decided to go with the turbowerx pump. its $250 or $400 depending on the model. For my application, even the 250 buck one will work great. I could not find any reports of obscure Turbowrex pump failures. All reviews come up as very positive again and again. People use them to replace the included pumps in STS turbo kits. I can also wire up and alarm to the pump line to alert me if anything should happen and the oil stops flowing. Then I'll just have the return go up into the driver side valve cover after putting a fitting into that.
heres the $400 one...
http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...+Scavenge+Pump
and heres a current pic too...
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07-18-2012, 06:57 PM
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07-18-2012, 07:48 PM
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You said you found someone to make you custom ac lines, right?
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07-18-2012, 08:10 PM
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You said you found someone to make you custom ac lines, right?
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not yet really, but i have been told of a few places. thats a concern for the future.
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07-18-2012, 08:31 PM
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I know buy-rite in South Plainfeild will make custom AC lines.
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07-20-2012, 02:35 PM
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Got the radiator, condenser, fan and Intercooler mounted. IC will be turned around at final fitting to have the "TRE" logo on the backside.
I still need to install some aluminum angle stock as a brace across the front where the impact bumper was cut out.
Front bumper cover is just placed on and not secured anywhere yet.
I have to do some trimming at the bottom but overall it fits a lot better than I expected. The lower oem chrome mesh cts-v grille will not be used.
I have to also get the stock lower black air deflector/spoiler/lip that mounts under the bumper. That will hide the bottom of the IC while it'll still get air flow from underneath.
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07-20-2012, 02:36 PM
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wow.
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07-20-2012, 02:38 PM
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How much money would you est. into this project?
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07-20-2012, 02:43 PM
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Quote:
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How much money would you est. into this project?
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At this point, I'd say I'm around 3500 into it.
I could make probably $500 back by selling off stuff I removed/don't need, but for now I'm gonna hold onto all stock parts considering that with a few hours work, everything could be put back to stock.
I figure I have another 1000-1500 I still need to spend.
To add to that.. a Magnacharger system would have cost over $6,000 start to finish. So I'm still under that amount.
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07-20-2012, 03:14 PM
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Cool to know Paul, maybe I will keep you in mind if I ever want to play around with custom stuff.
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07-20-2012, 03:57 PM
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Looks awesome. What about painting the intercooler black? I know you like sneaky. Also, why can't you use the lower mesh? To me, that is the V look. I would try to make it work personally. Help keep that stock appearance.
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07-20-2012, 04:27 PM
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Second the lower grille. What's left to purchase?
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07-20-2012, 04:55 PM
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dude that is beautiful
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07-20-2012, 04:57 PM
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Quote:
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Looks awesome. What about painting the intercooler black? I know you like sneaky. Also, why can't you use the lower mesh? To me, that is the V look. I would try to make it work personally. Help keep that stock appearance.
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third that
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07-20-2012, 04:59 PM
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the lower grille frame is almost 2" thick and sets back deeper into the opening. The I/C is basically right up against the bumper cover up top and the two lower out tabs had to be removed for clearance. Yes id like to be able to run the grille too, but at this point I'm happy with the cover being on and only unseen areas needing to be cut.
Here is a pic of the material i had to cut...
Blue couplers will be replaced with black silicone ones, I was hoping I could get away with those but they are too visible. Also, on the sides of the I/C, I will be fabricating ducting to put the outer airflow into the rad behind it.
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07-20-2012, 05:02 PM
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What's left to purchase?
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turbowerx oil pump and lines
injectors
racetronix fuel pump and hotwire kit
Tuning
a/c lines
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07-20-2012, 05:05 PM
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Looks badass. Awesome work as usual.
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07-20-2012, 07:01 PM
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I know that on the front is an aux fan but I would be concerned with how far away it is from the radiator. Could just be the picture angle.
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07-20-2012, 10:08 PM
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Yea...this is looking pretty good. Looking forward to seeing this done. As mentioned, I would try to get a grill in there as well.
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